Abortionist Commits Hit-and-Run Two Days Before Groups Ask For Grand Jury Investigation

Wichita, KS — Abortionist George R. Tiller struck a pro-life supporter with his vehicle yesterday afternoon while leaving the parking lot of Women’s Health Care Services (WHCS), his late-term abortion facility. This incident occurred just two days before a grassroots coalition plans to submit signatures to call for a Grand Jury to investigate him.

A complaint was filed with the Wichita Police Department.

Mark Gietzen was struck in the leg as he attempted to jump out of the way of Tiller’s speeding Jeep Grand Cherokee, forcing Gietzen to turn and push off from the vehicle with his hands.

“I was measuring the driveway to insure that pro-lifers were complying with the law during their prayer times when I heard an engine rev. I turned to see Tiller coming right at me,” said Gietzen. “In that moment I couldn’t decide to jump to the right or to the left. I was kind of like a deer caught in the headlights.”

Tiller immediately sped away from the scene.

While Gietzen did not seek medical attention, he reported to Operation Rescue that he was suffering some pain in his leg. Another man that was with Gietzen was uninjured.

Gietzen reported that there was plenty of room for Tiller to go around him in the 32-foot wide, two-laned driveway, and that he was not blocking Tiller’s ability to exit. “There is no doubt that he intentionally hit me,” he said. “He drove right down the center of the driveway.”

Gietzen is the president of the Kansas Coalition for Life. His group is part of the grassroots coalition that will be presenting signatures to Sedgwick County officials on Friday in an effort to convene a Grand Jury to investigate Tiller in the abortion death of 19-year old Christin Gilbert.

“This hit-and-run incident further illustrates our point that Tiller believes he is above the law,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. “He is out of control and a danger to the community. He needs to be held accountable for his actions before he hurts anyone else.”

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  • David

    I guess attempted murder doesn’t matter when the perpetrator IS a murderer.

  • Frank

    I hope Geitzen is soon on the mend and that Tiller is held responsible for his actions. Geitzen should seek medical attention ASAP, and also retain a good personal injury lawyer.

  • Samantha

    What are all of your thoughts on Pro-Choice Republicans?

  • Robert

    rebublicans kill babies.
    democrats kill babies.
    prochoice republicans kill babies.
    prolife rebublicans kill babies.

    Until we have a leader who will make abortion a capital offense and execute baby killers- the significant difference is not worthy of the moral vote.

  • God willing, Tiller will soon be held accountable for his actions by secular authorities, and maybe this will make him give some serious thought to the Highest authority.

    I know I can’t judge Tiller’s soul, but there’s nothing in his behavior where I would tell anybody, “Go thou and do likewise.”

  • Frank

    Samantha,

    Robert’s post highlights a schism in the prolife movement. It seems to me that the prolife cause can be roughly divided into 2 groups:

    1. Those who want to end abortion within the bound of existing and/or established processes, i.e., overturning Roe v. Wade; voting for candidates who, while not perfect and/or 100% prolife, are nevertheless far “more” prolife in voting records and policy making than the alternatives (George Bush v. John Kerry, for an example); etc., and

    2. Those who want to end abortion by essentially any means, or at least by more overt means, than those in camp #1. Such means may include anything from direct protests; voting for third-party pro-life ticket candidates (i.e. candidates who have no real chance to win elections, but who are presumably 100% prolife in all respects); to shooting abortionists (which, I add, is illegal, unethical, and immoral).

    The problem in my view is that some members of Group #2 sometimes think members of Group #1 (like me) are babykillers too. Robert has compared me to Neville Chamberlain on another thread, apparently claiming that I, like Neville, have somehow “sold out” the prolife cause by not being more radical in my view (which is also wrong, and for which he apparently won’t apologize).

    So perhaps that’s a long-winded answer to your short question: What anyone thinks of prochoice republicans may depend on whether you’re comparing them to prolife republicans, or rabid, Margaret Sanger-like proabortion people who want to wipe out whole ethnic groups through abortions. The problem is that the issue is not usually so clearcut: for example, some think voting to outlaw abortion in all cases except rape and incest is, due to the exceptions, still voting to allow babykilling on some level. So I guess asking about “prochoice” politicians requires that you first define what it means to be “prochoice.”

  • Doyle Chadwick

    Samantha asks: “What are all your thoughts on Pro-Choice Republicans”?

    Well, Samantha, I call them probabykilling Republicans. And they are the same to me as any other probabykillers.

  • riles

    Samantha asked what people thought of pro abort Republicans.

    Well, they are the same as any proabort, wicked and sinful.

  • tobra

    i am glad the prolifer was not injured and i would like to mention a good man and longtime anti-abortionist who faces persecution from proaborts. please pray for mike bray. he and his family face considerable hardships as a result of the actions of an ungodly government that aids killers and perverts. i hope some aid can be sent to this hardworking family. thanks,tobra

  • Sharon

    Samantha Says:
    April 6th, 2006 at 3:20 pm
    What are all of your thoughts on Pro-Choice Republicans?

    Sharon Says:
    Matthew 7:23 (Jesus speaking) “Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'”

  • Robert

    Yes!

    Mike Bray is a GREAT example of a Pastor who practices what he preaches!

    May we have ten thousand more like Pastor Bray!

    Pastor Bray just wrote about a Father’s Rights years ago in Capital Area News.

    The Fathers Rights Society is continuing its membership drive.

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=prolifeviews&msg=8507.1

  • Frank

    riles,

    “Well, they are the same as any proabort, wicked and sinful.”

    –ANY proabort is a bit too strong IMHO. The problem is, there’s so much distortion and misinformation being given about abortion by the mainstream media and by proabort groups that I think some people just don’t really know the facts about abortion. Politicians, who should know better, are one thing. But there are a lot of, for example, 18-year-olds out there who really are uneducated about abortion and don’t have easy access to the facts. So if someone is given a lot of misinformation about abortion, doesn’t know any better, and believes the lies, I don’t think that makes those people “wicked” and “sinful” any more than I may be “wicked and sinful” for being ignorant of how astrophysics works. A goal of the prolife movement should be to educate as many people as possible (particularly young people) about the true facts of abortion on demand, without blanket condemnations of large groups.

  • Pro-life visitor

    I am of the opinion that we do not need extra laws to protect the unborn. Their rights are guaranteed by the Constitution. The Warren Court did not just overturn existing abortion law when it made abortion legal, it overturned the Constitution. There is no way this practice should be ethically, legally, or morally allowed.

  • Robert

    Frank seems to think that astrophysics kills preborn children like a proabort republican.

    Frank appears to believe that in this World of Internet and masive antibabykilling activism that 18 year olds do not have easy accepss to the facts about abortion causing the death of an innocent human.

    I wonder how many more strange beliefs Frank has about what is and what is not wicked?

    Perhaps others about not seeking justice for baby killers?

  • Riles

    Frank,

    ANY proabort is a bit too strong IMHO. The problem is, there’s so much distortion and misinformation being given about abortion by the mainstream media and by proabort groups that I think some people just don’t really know the facts about abortion.

  • Frank

    Robert, since the minute you and I crossed paths you have done nothing but insult me, call me names, and claim that I’ve “borne false witness against you.” You’ve written that I “hate God,” “worship a golden calf,” “am confused,” need to “repent” and “ask your forgiveness,” and compared me to “Neville Chamberlain.”

    You are in no position to offer opinions about any subject requiring critical thought, since there is no critical thought in any of your posts. Those posts all boil down to the same theme: if you disagree with Robert and his views and selective Biblical interpretations, you are a sinner, and a babykiller too, regardless of anything else you may believe or do.

    Strange beliefs? ME? I suspect my views are shared with most mainstream Christians and with Roman Catholicism. However, you’re the one who argued in favor of executing those who work on the Sabbath, including doctors who save lives on the Sabbath.

    Goodbye, Robert. I hope you learn to “play nice” in the sandbox with the other children some day.

  • Lime5

    “Do you treat, care for, and help a sick or disabled person, or do you kill him? Do you measure the value of a person’s life in money? Or in utilitarian usefulness? The cost to society to care for all the physically and mentally handicapped among us is but a tiny fraction of the cost to society for the morally deformed among us. Professor Jerome Lejeune, discoverer of the chromosomal pattern of Down’s syndrome once related to us a story he had heard from a geneticist colleague which illustrates this well:

    “Many years ago, my father was a Jewish physician in Braunau, Austria. On one particular day, two babies had been delivered by one of his colleagues. One was a fine, healthy boy with a strong cry. His parents were extremely proud and happy. The other was a little girl, but her parents were extremely sad, for she was a Mongoloid baby. I followed them both for almost fifty years. The girl grew up, living at home, and was finally destined to be the one who nursed her mother through a very long and lingering illness after a stroke. I do not remember her name. I do, however, remember the boy’s name. He died in a bunker in Berlin. His name was Adolf Hitler.”
    — J.C. Willke, “Why Can’t We Love Them Both” (an excellent read on many aspects of induced abortion, available online at abortionfacts.com)

  • Lime5

    the wicked flee when noone is pursuing them, but the righteous are bold. . .Tiller is bullying coward; Godspeed, Mark, in your recovery and all prolifers in Wichita in bringing this dirtbag to justice for all his murderous actions.

  • Robert

    You poor thing Frank. You’re such a victim.

    You speak of ‘critical thought’? Get real.

    Your critical thought was to compare astrophysics with child killing.

    Strange beliefs are all those that disregard the Law of God. Like those you hold.

  • Doyle Chadwick

    I have no sympathy for “ignorant” proaborts. Anyone who would support the legalized killing of innocent babies without “knowing the facts” is in the same category as one who “knows the facts”, because they are aiding and abetting the slaughter blindly, and without giving it a second thought. A baby is just as dead when killed through ignorance as when killed knowingly.

  • Tina

    Robert,

    Seriously, I have no clue what in the hell you are babbling about. You said something to me on another thread that I should repent for my breaking the 9th commandment and that I think my past with Tiller is honorable ?! Uh, I have no clue what you’ve been reading, but it’s apparently nothing I’ve written. My abortion was a sin, it was wrong, it took an innocent life, where do you get “honor” out of that ?

    And any other person would have committed a hit and run and they would have their behind thrown in the slammer.

  • Robert

    Tina,

    Baby killers sure have a difficult time not twisting the truth. I said no such thing.

    ANY association with baby killers other than seeking their repentance and advocating justice is dishonorable.

    I stand by what I said before when you refused forgiveness upon your repentance:

    “Anticipation was not extended that there was a spec of honor in one who claims such a past with Tiller as you do so as to cause you to repent of breaking the 9th Commandment”

  • Tina

    Robert,

    I have repented and GOD has forgiven me. I do everything I can to make sure that any woman considering an abortion ( especially at Tiller’s ) doesn’t do it. GOD is the only one who can judge any of us, so where do you get off telling me that I need to seek YOUR forgiveness ? You are not GOD, okay. And what have you really done for the pro-life movement other than ramble incoherently here ? I built a website detailing my abortion experience so that women could read what a terrible thing it was. And just because I don’t advocate murdering abortionists doesn’t mean that I don’t pray every day for abortion to end. And don’t you ever proceed to tell me anything about my abortion, I mourn my innocent son every day. It’s hard to be a woman who’s had an abortion, especially a late one like I had, to step up and admit that her “choice” (mistake) cost an innocent baby his life. But, I will never stop talking about the pain it has caused me. If I can save even one woman & her baby from the heartbreak of abortion, then I’ve done my job.

  • Robert

    Tina,

    Possibly you do not know that the Bible instructs us to judge others many places and wish to misappply one verse on judging as the hypocrites do?

    I’m glad you have repented of baby killing. Ther eis however no indication that you have repented of bearing a false witness.

    My prayer for you is that perhaps this sort of clarity will continue to lead you to not break the 9th commandment, repent and accept forgiveness.

    But then…… as you have said; hell may ‘freeze over’ as you say before you are so contrite.

    Perhaps you and Frank would like to continue these off topic discussions in the Forum rather than sidelining these threads every time you see my comments?

    Or you are both welcome to email me directly, rather than post such intolerance over a dead sure way to obtain justice and stop abortions; per scriptures.

    Possibly we could even get Billy J to use ONE NIC ONLY and join us rather than post as an imposter under my name here?

  • Heywood Jalisson

    Tina,

    If “G-d is the only one who can judge any of us,” then you should not “judge” what Tiller does as bad.

    Think about it.

  • Frank

    “Perhaps you and Frank would like to continue these off topic discussions in the Forum rather than sidelining these threads every time you see my comments?
    Or you are both welcome to email me directly, rather than post such intolerance over a dead sure way to obtain justice and stop abortions; per scriptures.”

    -I’m intolerant? You were the one who said I “hate God,” “worship a golden calf,” called Tina an “Ignoramus,” etc.

    –I hijack threads? You were the one who personally attacked me in a post above, not vice versa.

    –Let me get this straight: Give my personal email and other contact data to someone who threatens execution for those who disagree with his views of scripture, calls names, insults, mocks, etc.? Why? So you can show up at my home? I’d have to be really stupid if not suicidal, and I am neither. So, uh, NO, I will not waste further time being insulted by someone who is under the misimpression that rudeness and obnoxiousness passes for reasoning. I have better uses for my time.

  • Frank

    Heywood,

    You write:

    “If “G-d is the only one who can judge any of us,” then you should not “judge” what Tiller does as bad.”

    –You are correct that only God can judge any of us as people.

    –However, there is no impediment I know of, theologically, that precludes the judgment of actions. For that matter, jurys are sworn in every day in every court to judge actions, and we have to have that for a just society. We should draw a distinction between judging Tiller’s actions (which seem to be brazen killing of preborn babies, done with full knowledge that many of the babies would otherwise survive) and judging Tiller as a human being (which we have no real right to do). That is why I have taken issue with some on this board who, for example, seem to blur the lines and condemn those (like me) whose actions, or worse, whose beliefs, they personally disagree with.

  • Heywood Jalisson

    Frank,

    Perhaps you should read and understand a post before you respond to it.

  • Frank

    Heywood,

    Your post provides no edification whatsoever. Exactly what did I misread or misunderstand?

    Frank

  • Tina

    Robert,

    When have I ever ” beared false witness ” against you ? I don’t even know you ! I am not going to sit here and argue back & forth with you because I think you are a judgemental, hypocritical asshole with a severe God complex who seems to get off on hurting post abortive women. End of story.

    Now, I really hope that Mark is okay. And it doesn’t surprise me that the Wichita PD did nothing. Wasn’t there an incident a few years back where Tiller was charged with felony assault for doing the same thing ?

  • Robert

    Frank,
    Those who review the two threads in which you have born a false witness of me in will clearly see they show that you attacked me first in each- not the otherway around as you claim.

    Execution is the Godly solution to cleanse a land of bloodguilt.

  • Robert

    Heywood,

    Your “if” is not missed on those who have comprehension of posts- only on those who inject their own false testimony unto others.

    Thanks for clarifying Tina’s error. I suspect it is lost in at least two others though.

  • Tina

    Robert,

    Whatever. You are seriously a few fries short of a happy meal. I don’t know how many times I have to say this, but you are not God. You cannot judge people, you cannot seriously expect me or anyone else to seek your forgiveness for a damn thing. God has forgiven me, I needn’t seek your forgiveness at all. You are a man, not a divine being.

  • I regret my abortion or lets call it for what it is murdering my twins. Lets us leave the Creator out of the abortion issue, because he didn’have anything to do with the sins of the earth. He only told us not to do the things that we do. I am strongly against any form of abortion nor do I ask forgiveness, because there really isn’t any. I murdered an innocent human being, I can’t ask their forgiveness because they are dead. This country was founded upon the word of the Creator, but the country has the blood of millions of innocent lives on its hands. They gave us premission to do child sacrifice. About the incest issue that doesn’t fly with me, because my mother and father were cousin’s. the country, Planned Parenthood and Sanger just need an excuse to kill and to destroy. They say the meek will inherit the earth, yes but they plan to destroy all of the right people. So far they have killed and destroyed the population of more than half of this nation. The snakes are among us and they plan to grow more. The reason why there are two prolife camps, they are beginning to divide us and no one sees, for they have taken our sight and blinded us. The only way that I see to end this tragic part in our History is to completely overturn Roe. Pull all of our resources together and just drive, march, fly, take a bus or how ever we get there go to Washington DC and let our voices be heard. Even if we got to take off work, go in wheelchairs, any shape or form of our human bodies, we have got to do it now, because mother earth is getting angry, she was bulit to have the flesh, bone, and blood of aborted babies in her waters, think what happened to the beaches of the Atlantic and the medical waste. It was I believe…..

  • Esther

    I say put CAMCORDERS in every prolife car out there. Man every prolifer with a camcorder and/or still picture (throwaway) camera. The tiny spy camcorders are the best! That way these abortionist-assaults-prolifer incidents can be documented on videotape for the court trial of Tiller the killer.

  • Tina

    Esther,

    IF he ever goes to court. He’s mastered breaking the law and covering up it up with payoffs pretty well..

  • I have a few comments to make….1…I have been against abortion on demand since abortion became legal.
    I am against it because if a woman is pregnant, she will
    deliver a child like her with blue eyes, etc. Just because
    a human refuses to admit that this is her baby, does not change life…people beget other people, etc 2..women
    do not want the change of life having a baby requires so
    they abort without realizing what profound changes her
    body goes thru and how she will feel in the future .She
    will feel like any other mother who has lost a child Pray
    for all who are in the abortion business with bloody hands.3..America has had 45 milion less citizens,workers,
    taxpayers so we are overrun by illegals that will change
    this beautiful country to be 3rd world our grandchilren
    will inheirit…We must reproduce or we are doomed. Our
    grandchilren are going to be robbed of their country. What a legacy to leave our chilren..think of it !!!!