Abortion Clinic Investigations Are A Matter Of Life Or Death
[We wanted to run this article for informational purposes. It exposes the need for the investigations of KS abortion clinics to continue. For many pre-born, viable children, these investigations may be literally a matter of life or death. -OR Staff]
By Cheryl Sullenger
Chairperson, Kansans for Truth In Politics
Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline has been under fire in the media for his efforts to access abortion clinic medical records in an investigation of concealment of child rape and illegal late term abortions. Opponents of Kline’s investigations focus on the “privacy” of such medical records.
But the privacy issue is merely a smokescreen — a slight of hand maneuver to divert the public’s attention from the true issue at hand, and that is that Kansas abortion clinics operate in a universe of their own making, totally separate from the laws that apply to all others, and in doing so flagrantly violate those laws on a consistent basis.
Kline has never sought the identities of the women involved, so the privacy argument is simply a red herring.
Instead, he has requested information from those records related to K.S.A. 65-6703(a), which states, “No person shall perform or induce an abortion when the fetus is viable unless such person is a physician and has a documented referral from another physician not legally or financially affiliated with the physician performing or inducing the abortion and both physicians determine that: (1) The abortion is necessary to preserve the life of the pregnant woman; or (2) a continuation of the pregnancy will cause a substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman.”
Viability, as defined by this statute is 22 weeks gestation or more.
In light of this law, abortionist George Tiller’s arrangement with former abortionist Kristin Neuhaus raises red flags. Neuhaus travels from Lawrence, Kansas, every week to interview Tiller’s late-term abortion patients and sign off on them as the second physician required by K.S.A. 65-6703(a). She receives compensation directly from each patient, an arrangement the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts considers adequate separation in order to avoid the ban on second opinions from doctors “not legally or financially affiliated” with the abortionist. This loose interpretation of the law allows for a symbiotic relationship to exist between Neuhaus and Tiller who both financially benefit from the other. Tiller would not be able to do late-term abortions without Neuhaus’ stamp of approval, and Neuhaus would not have access to Tiller’s patients’ fees without his agreement and the space he provides for her at his abortion clinic every week. The KSHBA interpretation of the “non-affiliation” clause does violence to the plain language of the legislation and ignores the obvious affiliation of the two.
According to a confidential source inside the grand jury that investigated Tiller in the abortion death of Christin Gilbert, Neuhaus was asked if there was ever an abortion that she did not sign off on. Instead of responding, she took the Fifth Amendment to avoid self-incrimination. For the sake of clarity, a “yes” answer would have not required the invocation of the Fifth Amendment.
Of the arrangement between Neuhaus and Tiller, the grand jury source said, “It was wishy-washy to be honest with you.”
The grand jury requested the documents from Neuhaus that specified which major bodily function of Gilbert’s would have suffered “substantial and irreversible impairment” by continuation of the pregnancy.
Prosecutor Ann Swegle told the grand jury that it would take “an act of God” to get those documents, and they were never produced.
In fact, Tiller is fighting “tooth and nail” against the Attorney General’s records request, which was granted by a judge who determined that there was “probable cause” to believe that the laws had been violated. Why the resistance to legally obtained subpoenas?
It has already been mentioned that privacy issues are a red herring since the identities of the women were not requested. Tiller’s own web site notified patients that their names would be turned over to his political action committee, ProKanDo, for fundraising purposes, casting serious aspersions on the sincerity of Tiller’s concern for patient privacy. That notice became the subject of public questions concerning his privacy practices, and has since been taken down.
It is the belief of Kansans for Truth In Politics that Tiller resists the inspection of his late-term abortion records because he knows that many of his abortions were done in violation of K.S.A. 65-6703(a). One family came forward and told Operation Rescue that the abortion of their daughter was solely because she had been diagnosed with cystic fibrosis. The mother later gave birth to another child that also had cystic fibrosis. The mother’s health was not impaired in any way by the birth. On Tiller’s own website, he refers specifically to his “Late Abortion Care for Fetal Anomaly” program. There is no exception for fetal anomaly in the Kansas post-viability abortion ban.
Tiller and Neuhaus run a very profitable late-term abortion operation. If law enforcement were to review the subpoenaed records to which K.S.A. 65-6703(a) applied, they would likely be found in violation of that law and face criminal penalties for conspiring to commit and/or the commission of illegal late-term abortions.
Why has the KSBHA been defensive of the Tiller-Neuhaus relationship? Could it be that they have looked the other way so long on this matter that they understand that they are now culpable for allowing these illegal post-viability abortions?
This is a classic case of butt-covering by Tiller, Neuhaus, the pro-abortion District Attorney’s office, and the KSBHA.
A judge has ruled there is probable cause to believe that Tiller is violating the law. A grand jury was prevented from accessing documents that may have proved that Tiller is violating the law. The KSBHA now must reinvent the English language in order to deny that Tiller and Neuhaus have violated the law.
Now comes Democrat Paul Morrison, who is running for the office of Kansas Attorney General. He has promised to halt all investigations currently underway involving abortion clinics and promises to drop the request for medical records in those investigations that may confirm criminal activity.
If this is done, it will be a gross miscarriage of justice, and will simply enable further defiance of Kansas laws, at the risk of women and lives their viable pre-born babies that the laws are meant to protect.
The issue of abortion clinic investigations is literally one of life and death. Let the Attorney General’s investigation continue. If there is nothing improper, then the investigation will determine that, and Tiller and his cohorts will be off the hook. But if there are violations of the law, let those also come to light so that justice can finally be done.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:04 am
This is a scary arrangement.
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
That child with cystic fibrosis could have lived to be in her 30s What a shame!!!!
April 11th, 2007 at 8:20 am
people who abort are selfish
April 27th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Its almost as if i have no words to expain how i feel about this topic. It hurts…its beyond selfish and cruel, its killing an innocent thing…that never even had a fighting chance to show you the love it holds. Its an immature escape, and honestly, i hope that those who have or will have an abortion never get to feel the love they once had a chance to get to know. Personally, i feel there is not a good enough reason to abort a living thing. Its no ones decision to say whether a baby should live or die.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:46 pm
that is a shame, the mother was not thinking of the baby nor the life it could have lived.
May 15th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
I feel that if people don’t want to end up pregnant then they should no t be having sex. Why have sex then get pregnant and have an abortion when there are many women in the world who would love to have kids that can’t. Instead of abortion then try adoption.
May 16th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Most women abort 6-7 babies in a life time. Not ever once thinking of the child. Abortions are selfish acts of female and male thst are not considering any one but themselves. Their are many people out their that are dying to have children and that are willing to adopt. So do something that is very unselfish for once and Give Your Baby A Chance At Life. Adopt Dont Abort!!!!
May 21st, 2007 at 7:50 pm
I really think that its a sin to do something like that your killing a innocent little baby that did no sins and will never get a chance to live , I strongly suggest that everyone across the world should sign a putison and ban abortions because it should be considered a crime because your actually killing someone when having an abortion.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
I honestly think abortion should not be legal.If people cannot take care of a baby they should not have sex at all. God gave them that baby for a reason, probably thinking they will care for it, love it, and accept the baby the way it is. This baby would have been fine and would have had a chance to change this world, even if it was just for a little while. People need to think about what they are doing, obviously they must be happy to be alive but what about an innocent child. The way abortions happen are awful, considering the fact that the baby is pretty much torn apart half the time. People should rot in prison for that, if it’s such a crime to kill, then abortions are just the same. I am very young and don’t know what it is like to make that choice and I know I never will. I know people won’t take advice from a 13 year old but should at least think about it. Paticians should be made for this type of thing and make it illegal once again.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
One more thing. Look at her she’s beautiful, tiny, an innocent baby. If I could help I would, But i can’t until i am older.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:19 am
I THINK THAT IF U DONT WANNA HAVE A BABY, THEN KEEP UR LEGS KLOSED!!!! HOW KAN SOME ONE KILL AN INNOCENT PERSON……????????……. I HONESTLY HATE PEOPLE THAT ABORT…… AND EVEN IF THEIR CHILD MIGHT BE BORN WIT SOME SICKNESS OR SOMETHING, THEY SHOULD LOVE THEN JUST THE WAY THEY ARE!!!!!!!!! THATS MY OPINION…… IM 6 MONTHS PREG, IM 19 YEARS OLD, AND I KANT WAIT FOR THE DAY THAT MY BABY IS GOING TO BE BORN NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:50 am
i think the law should change-by not having an abortion. people that abort babies are evils, killers, sinners, and criminals; they must be ended up in court and be locked up for year-no matter what they situation are; some people abort babies because they are not ready to have a baby, but i dont think that is right, because if you are not ready to have a baby then you must not be ready to have sex too (close your legs to any man). am 17 years old and am 12 weeks pregnant, my boyfriend didn’t want the baby because he said “he is not ready to be a father”, my mum didn’t want me because she said “i disappointed her”; but because i’ve opened my leg to that idiot boyfriend and i was also ready to do it with him, i must be ready to have my baby too. i’ve always wanted to have baby because i love babies. am proud to be pregnant and i can’t wait till when my baby is due to be born.
PLEASE STOP ABORTION, its awful.
August 12th, 2007 at 2:11 am
Abortion is murder. Just know that people can judge you all they want about what you have done, but judgement only rings TRUE in God’s eyes. You will be judged on account of your actions, and you will live everyday of the REST OF YOUR LIFE knowing you murdered someone so very innocent and small. I hope whoever aborts their children lives forever, with crystal clear memory. Your past will never go away. You can change and be forgiven, but I promise you, you will never forget what you have done.
August 18th, 2007 at 3:10 am
It should be the womens decision whether or not she chooses an abortion or not! You are not killing much more than the same thing a male kills during ejaculation, unless it is a late abortion. That is why many places have rules in place about how far into your pregnancy you are allowed an abortion. If it is early, it is not a very big deal. It is a double edged sword, there and both positives and negatives to abortion. If you don’t like it, don’t do it, but to some people, it may be very necessary, and could be a major positive all involved.
August 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
all I can say is God will judge you for any decision you choose to make on judgment day. doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks, abortion is wrong and you are killing an innocent life, a child of God, one of God’s children whom we have no right to take from this planet, all those aborted children, all those babies that have been born, you and me, all of man kind are God’s childrena nd it is up to him when we die, not us. Abortion is murder and taking someones life into your hands and away from the hands of God.
August 21st, 2007 at 3:11 pm
I dont understand how someone can have an abortion. Why do people have to be so heartless. I’m only 16 and I have a baby and never in my life could I have had an abortion.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:41 pm
that is wrong! i am 19 and i have a year old son and i am 4 months pregnant with my second child. People wanted me to have an abortion but i can not and will not MURDER my own. this is just sick!
August 25th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
i think its up to you to have an abortion its very sad but sometimes it needs to be done like if you were to be raped and gotten pregnet than i think its ok even thou the baby haves no faul to it its also just up to the girl.
September 6th, 2007 at 8:12 pm
Firstly to the person ” - “…
Sperm is not the same as an embryo. Sperm is only half of the ingredients necissary to create life, the other half would be the egg. So when a guy jacks off into his sock and throws it away it is not the same as the egg being fertilized by the sperm which didnt get there by accident, and then it being implanted into the womens uterus where it CONTINUES to grow. Anyways to those other people that are not that neive. These are just my beliefs so bare with me. The above is scientific fact. I thought that there were time limits on abortion so you would have time to concider the conciquences, not because it doesnt matter before then? Am I wrong. Also if you were raped wouldnt you just give it up for adoption? How does that ruin your life? I guess its so people never knew you were pregnant? Like its stated above, dont have sex! My husband and I lost our 1st baby at 10 weeks gestation. We are now 16 weeks into our 2nd pregnancy and cant wait. It just depends on your morals I guess. I just dont understand pro choice..whose choice is it?
September 7th, 2007 at 12:18 am
im sorry but no matter what the situaton is rather the girl was raped or just doesnt want a baby she should not get an abortion. i was just on here doing research for school but i feel that i should let my voice be heard i am 21 and have a beutiful baby boy that is ten months old and would never in a million years think about ever having an abortion you know people there is a thing called BIRTHCONTROL use it or keep your legs shut no baby should have to suffer because you are a selfish pig and cant keep your pants up!!!!!!!!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:37 am
i think that thre are so many things so you cant have a baby live up to your mistakes & dont be a cowerd.-zayra
i thnk that having an abortion is stupid because like i am agaisnt abortion how can u kill an innocent child espeacaly your own come on dont have sex if u are going to kill your own baby.-jesse
September 17th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
If your willing to have sex…your wlling to take the chance of getting pregnant…this is sick! wrong….disappointing that it was even THOUGHT OF!
September 18th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
God should be the only one deciding if one should live. Abortion is wrong. SO WRONG. It hurts me to see and hear of people getting an abortion. My friends mom almost got an abortion but decided not to and I am so glad! She is a really great friend who helped me through a lot if her mom would’ve got that abortion she wouldnt be here and maybe I wouldnt either. The next baby aborted could have been the next Mother Theresa or the one to end terrorism. ALWAYS CHOOSE LIFE!!
September 19th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
For all of the people who think it is the mothers choice have to thin about this: it was their choice to keep their legs shut….look how well they handled that decision.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:23 am
I think abortions is wronge but i think i would rather know that they dont have to live being unwanted and be beat on all the time … I’m 17 and about to pop any day now but i know if i knew i couldn’t take care of my child i would either put her/him up for adoption or abort it is the mothers choice if they want to abort let them send that wonderful child back to spend its days with jesus have any of you ever thought of that? or would you rather them to end up on the streets living for there own? at age 7,8,9 think about it!
September 25th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
The reality of CF is harsh. My good friend down the street was subject to limitations and horrible treatments leaving her crying much of the time. She is now losing her life as we are approaching 30. Her belief is that she would have made it to earth no matter what and that she wished she had a better vessel for life. Perhaps that is an uncommon view, but I would hate to exit this world in my prime.
Also, my mother was beaten and raped in her family as a child. I have spent time with counselors that say many of these abortions are women who fear for the safty of the prospective child. My mother is Pro-choice and wished that abortion was an option for her mother as she also believers her soul would have made it to earth as well.
September 26th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Listen..abortion is a choice..its your choice to have it know one elses..its your life its your child you choose to deal with it..im not saying im against abortion and im not saying im for it but all you ppl judging this person isnt going to stop abortions..there goin to happen..killing an embreyo is no differnent from killing a fly it has no feelings when it happens. Now its different for when the baby is fully developed or close to being so..thats another story if your close to labor, you should just have it and give it for adoption…no use for being pregnant all that time and now getting an abortion..but when its 1/2 an inch ..and you feel its right…go ahead and do it. All you people do want you want and stick with it dont change others minds because your obessively crazy over this legal matter.
September 26th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
And another thing about “keeping their legs shut” People have sex all the time, maybe there sluts maybe they are in love people do it everyday the point of it all is called “USING PROTECTION” now that handled that decision!
October 1st, 2007 at 10:00 am
i feel that abortion is a bad decision to make but at times its neccessary. Some people say that they would never get an abortion, but when they end up in the circumstance they abort…i was one of those.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:57 pm
I think everyones opinon matters but I don’t understand how you can say all these comments about abortion and women if you have never been in that place. I find it really funny that you think you should be able to make the decision for another adult.
October 6th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
I have something to say to all these people who “would NEVER consider having an abortion and CAN’T BELIEVE that someone would do it.”
If you don’t even try to understand these people, how can you even hope to change their minds or at least help them understand your point of view. If you think it is such a sin and is so horrible, you would be concerned with helping them understand a new way. If you don’t care about that, you are just a tool and are just spouting off what your mom and dad said or what your church says and would likely do differently (or at least consider it) if in that situation where you had to make a choice.
I believe that abortion is wrong. But, I don’t believe that my feelings should dictate what others do. God gave us the free will to make choices, which truly can be a double edged sword. However, he did give us that choice. I feel that I don’t have the right to tell others whether to get an abortion or not. I can share my feelings, but I can’t choose for them.
Just reading through here, so many of you are ignorant of the facts. You need to be more informed of what you think you feel strongly about! Like, whoever said that most women abort 6-7 fetuses in her lifetime, I am almost positive that means spontaneous abortion, aka miscarriage, because that is true and often occurs before the woman even knows she is pregnant.
All I am saying is that in America, people should have the right to choose, even if you do not agree with that choice. I support keeping the free will that I believe God gave us.
October 8th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
STOP DOING ABORTION ITS JUST STUPID SERIOUSLY IT IS IF YOUR GONNA DO SEX THINK ABOUT IT WHAT IF YOU GET PREGENT IMA TAKE ABORTION NO ITS YOUR FAULT BY HAVING SEX ALSO THE GUYS FOR NOT USING CONDOMS BUT WHEN YOU KILL THE BABY TRUST ME YOU WILL NEVER FORGET YOU KILLED SOMETHINH WHICH IS YOUR BABY SO IF YOU DID ABORTION UR A BITCH N A SLUT EVEN IF U CANT AFFORD IT TAKE IT TO ADOPATION
October 8th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
ALSO WHY WILL U KILL A BABY THINK ABOUT THAT
October 12th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
I think that if you dont whant kids you dont have sex use protection. and if you do get preganet give it up for adoption. I also think that poeple that have abortions should burn in hell for the rest of there lifes and the docs doing abortions should be arested and in prison for the rest of there lifes and the lady who did this to her child becouse theres nothing different between killing it when its here then to do this.
October 17th, 2007 at 1:39 am
I woman has her own right to her body; however, in my opinion, I feel that if a woman is not ready to have a child then she should be on some kind of effective birth control and the man should use a condom. There are ways of preventing pregnancy, but there’s a lot of careless ignorant people out there.
BUT YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT SHOULD KEEP THIS IN MIND: MANY WOMEN OUT THERE CAN DEVELOP A DEATHLY ILLNESS BY THE CAUSE OF BEING PREGNANT; FOR EXAMPLE TOXIMA. THERE IS ALSO PREGNANT WOMEN OUT THERE WHO HAVE DIABETES AND STD’S. THEY’RE DOING THEMSELVES AND THE INFANT A LOT OF GOOD BY GETTING AN ABORTION.
I would honestly have to say that if I ever got an abortion, I would regret it for the rest of my life. It would be a dark secret that would haunt me till the day I die, but still I am not against abortion, but only to a certain extent…I feel it’s murder after 4 months of pregnancy…but I don’t have all the facts straighten out…So in that case, I can’t explain my opinion.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:22 am
I have to say I am both saddened and disturbed by the lack of knowledge and maturity in some of these posts. It’s posts like this that are used against us by those that support “Choice”..
First of all, preganacy is NOT a disease, it is as natural as breathing.. it does not Cause disease. It is not a “Condition ” that is CURED at birth (or abortion). Pregnancy is a state of being. Yes.. there are risks. But that is true in EVERY aspect of life. Should you commit suicide rather than risk dying in a car accident or getting cancer?? Aborting a child because of “risks” is no different…. except for the fact it’s not YOUR life your ending..
Risks are part of life..grow up and deal with it.
The woman that aborted this child is the untimate in selfishness. No doubt she just didn’t want to complicate HER life with a less than perfect child.
Sarah: If a woman has problems like diabetes or STD’s, she should use reliable birthcontrol or get sterilized if she does not wish to risk a pregnancy. In this day and age there is simply NO exuse for aborting a child simply because of “risks”. No one is perfect.. what right to we have to decide who is worthy of life and who is not.
And Why is it murder to kill a child after 4 months gestation? At what point does the embryo become a person? No One seems to be able to answer this. A six WEEK old embryo has a heartbeat and measurable brain waves, as well as a developed central nervous system. A six week old fetus CAN feel pain. And many women don’t even realize they are pregnant until six to eight weeks.
The bottom line is… women (and men) need to be held accountable for there own actions. If you don’t want kids..get your tubes tied (and that goes for BOTH genders). You immature “men-children* out there that want to play Johnny apple seed and bed down every woman you can get without consequence.. you are just a responsible for the abortion tragedy as the women who have them.
Grow up people. We all make mistakes. And we all have the obligation to accept the consequeces of those mistakes. To do otherwise is cowardice and selfish…..especially when it means ending the life of a child that did not ask to be made in the first place, simply because it’s existance inconvinient.
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:39 pm
I for the longest time didn’t agree with abortion and still don’t for the most part. Most times it’s unfair and cruel. But until I suddenly got pregnant myself after being gang raped after a concert I knew I had no other way. Not because of the fact that I did not want the baby, but because there were 3 fetuses and they all had Tay-Sachs Disease. Tay-Sachs is fatal in almost all cases before the child reaches age 2. It’s a hard hard road to watch your child die of a debilitating and degenerative disease. A road I chose not to take. I wouldn’t have just been caring for 1 disabled child. I had triplets. So I aborted. Yeah it hurt … my heart and my insides. But for ME it was right. I know those baby boys are in a better place. But for people who go and have unprotected sex carelessly and just get their uterus vacuumed out every few months … that is the injustice.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pm
For the longest time i was a strong supporter of not having abortions. But a lot of things change when you actually get put into the situation. I chose to get an abortion not because i just WANTED to, but because i HAD to. Do i regret it? Of course I do. I think about it everyday and think about how my life could be so much different. But, I’m happy with my life right now and don’t think I’d be where I’m at if I would have kept the baby. Would i ever do it again? No. But for everyone who can sit here and say “abortion is wrong everyone who has an abortion is going to hell” is just being ignorant. Anyone can say they’d do something if it never happened to them before. A lot of things change when it’s you decided what to do with YOUR life
October 25th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
All of you “christians” on here judging people are sinning. A sin is a sin no matter if you murder someone or cheat on your husband or have an abortion. Sex out of wedlock is a sin, but obviously those who have children protesting against abortion on here dont consider that. It’s pure ignorance. We are ALL sinners. Jesus died for our sins. Those who want to be “christ-like” leave the judging up to the one and only. No one on here is in any position to judge one another.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
This woman did this beautiful baby wrong when she being the baby when she could have livedee a wonderful health life after the disease being treated but the mom just had to ruin this babys life everybody should have a chance at life thats what she was put in her mothers stomach for what if this was done to the mother?? she should have thought about that.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
i think that if she thought she was grown enough to haver SEX then she should be grown enough to go on with her pregnancy knowing that that could have been treated and her baby couldve had a healthy harmless life. if she didnt want a baby she shouldnt have had sex.
October 31st, 2007 at 9:42 am
I believe that abortion is the most disgusting and revolting thing in the world! What are we becoming if we can take the life of an innocent child to better ourselves? The idea of hurting someone so young, so innocent, so dependant is disturbing. It is slaughter. I feel sorry for all those women who had abortions because they will never fully understand the extent of their decision. Everyone has the right to live, no one has the right to decide when life should end.
October 31st, 2007 at 1:21 pm
That is just terrible. The government should not let people do this its just like murder.
November 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 am
abortion is sick its just
two eyes that wont see
two legs that wont run
two hands that wont feel
a mouth that will never speek
and a heart that will never beat again
just be glad that you mother loved you enough not to KILL you at least she loved you!!!
November 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 am
if she didnt want a baby and wanted to just have sex then wear protection!im 13 and im smarter than that
November 5th, 2007 at 3:19 am
Abortion is wrong. Im 16 years old and I had a son who is now 6 months. He was put up for adoption because I didnt have the financial stability to take care of him. I love him very much and couldnt imagine what my life would be like without him. In my opinion, abortion is only tolerable if the pregnancy is a risk to the life of the baby of mother. If you arent ready to be a parent but you get pregnant, do the right thing. Take responsibility for your actions and go through with your pregnancy. There are so many couples who are young and stable and who cant have children of there own.
November 7th, 2007 at 12:17 am
i don’t think that abortion is a sin really unless its late abortion. i mean come on, if a woman wants abortion, its her choice. and plus making abortion illegal won’t completely stop abortions, look at the past, instead women had backyard abortions, by sticking big metal wires through the uterus, which puts the woman at risk of infections AND death. so i think that even if abortion is illegal, it will still be performed, just not professionally. abortion is very wrong when it comes to the woman not wanting the baby because of a treatable disease or a disease at all. but if the woman is not financially stable or emotionally stable then there is alot of risk involved for the baby being born… for example infanticide, which does happen. and to one of the comments above, NOT MANY WOMEN WANT TO GET THEIR TUBES TIED. they just don’t want a baby YET. and NO OTHER form of contraception is OEN HUNDRED PERCENT EFFECTIVE. but i DO agree that people (women AND men) should take more responsibility. and unless you people can find a method that is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy, without damaging future possibilities in having babies, then attempts in stopping abortion is almost useless. and to amy, it IS true alot of women and men cannot have children of their own, but abortion of someone elses baby doesnt increase those peoples fertility. i am not in a position to say whether people who have had abortions is wrong or right, because everyones morals are different, so right or wrong depends on the person. but i do belive that women shouldn’t have a finger pointed at them because she chose NOT to have a baby.
November 7th, 2007 at 8:58 am
In considering only the selfish concerns of the woman, you all are leaving out the humanity of the pre-born child. People are not mere inconveniences that can be murdered on a whim just to satisfy the egocentric desires of women who are too self-consumed to look at the life they are taking.
Those who have abortions and eventually do realize the enormity of their horrific deed usually suffer regrets for a life-time.
When we devalue one life, it devalues all our lives. Maybe some day someone will decide YOU are an inconvenience and don’t deserve to live. That is already happening in our country’s nursing homes on a regular basis. So you women who think abortion is the greatest thing, remember, your relatives may one day follow your “me first” example and terminate you.
November 8th, 2007 at 12:29 am
i think it is a totally different thing if a woman is that far along, to abort a pregnancy.
i had one when i was 7wks along.
but when a baby, like the above pic is that big, its a normal infant…and just bc the poor thing was diagnosed with having cf the mother aborted it. i think that is murder….
November 11th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
all of you who r saying its r decision, well its their life, shut up!! your mom didnt kill you did she? if you r writing then of course she couldnt have, so if you r still alive and she didnt kill you why would you think it would be ok for a mother to kill her baby??? In the bible it says THOU SHALT NOT KILL!!!!A baby is alive,and is breathing, and is a human!!!! why would you disobey God and kill a baby!! you are probably saying ohhh but i dont want it suffer!! thats bull, a study shows kids dont know they are mentally retarted!!! so they would probably be happy i they were alive!!!I dont get it, when a guy/girl kills a mother with her baby its a double murder, but when a mother kills a baby its not!! whats the differnce!! they die dont they, if you r soooo ok with killing a baby then why dont you just kill yourself!!!KILLING IS KILLING,7 weeks,2 weeks, 3 weeks,!! it dont matter cause the baby is still dying!!!just think about it if your mother didnt kill you, nd if you had a child and didnt kill it why would you want someone else too!!! look at pictures and then tell me if you still support it!!!
November 12th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I think that abortion is a stuped thing to do and it should be illigal if you don’t want a baby than you should keep your legs closed and not have sex until you are ready to have a baby.I would understand if u got raped and wanted to have an abortion that is th only time that u could do it, but to whant to have an abortion just becouse u werestuid and had sex and now you don’t want except the consiquences.
November 14th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Thats just wrong to get an abortion because if you laid down without a condom an you get pregnant then you should have the baby because you never know what success that baby can bring into this world and u go an kill it…Your mom didn’t abort you so why do it to the next life changing doctor or famous actor…man people who get an abortion have no heart…I think that they should close down all abortion offices and abortions should be illegal!
November 14th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
I have had an abortion and it’s unfortunate that it took that experience to show me that abortion is 100% wrong. After i left that clinic i felt like life had been sucked out of me, like something was missing and i regret having that done. Babies, children, fetuses, embryos whatever you want to call it are gifts from God, gifts of life, starting at conception, and i found out that you should treasure it.
November 21st, 2007 at 5:06 pm
when i was pregnant with my second very much wanted child i found that she had patau’s syndrom, i had an abortion because i did not want her to suffer any more and chances are she would have died before i reached 30 weeks gestation.
i am now pregnant with my third, abortion should be illegal, but in some circumstances like my own with my angel baby it should be allowed to ease their suffering.
i do not agree with people that go out and ‘forget’ to use contraception so that it dosn’t interfere with their social life etc. they get an abortion,
November 26th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
im 6 months right now and never have i thought about having an abortion this is going to be my second time being pregnant i lost my first child but with that one i never thought of having an abortion i called my own family member a murderer just for thinking of killing baby cole but she nevered cause i told her that it was a living person just like her and me and that made her cry and she changed her mind right away i think that abortion is MURDER and anyone that is thinking of having an abortion is a MURDERER!!!! even if they did get rapped it is a living person dont kill it let it live and grow and have a life
November 27th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
THINGS LIKE THIS JUST MAKE ME SICK… IAM A GREIVING MOTHER.. I MISCARIED AT 14WKS.. AND HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO GET PREGANT AGIAN..!! THINGS LIKE THIS MAKE ME SICK.. WHY DO PEOPLE KILL THIER CHILDERN WHEN WOMEN FAMILIES LIKE ME THRIVE FOR LIFE… I FELT PUNISHED WHEN I LOST MY CHILD I JUST COULDNT UNDERSTAND WHY GOD MAD IT THAT WAY FOR ME AND TO SEE ABOROTION PICTURES PEOPLE ARE SO UNGRATFUL!!!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:09 am
People disgust me! I don’t understand if you have sex without a condom how could you NOT expect to get pregnant? People who have abortions to me are stupid and disgusting. How could you live with yourself after that knowing that you could have had a little baby boy/girl how could you smile after that how could you even be happy? There is absolutely NO reason to have an abortion even if you had your baby and gave it up for adoption which there is no way in hell i’d do that but at least your baby has a chance at living and having a good life. Your baby’s aren’t the ones that came out of no where so why would you punish them? I have 3 sisters 2 of them have had abortions and i will never look at them the same again one sister is being safe at least now but my other one is just a dumb whore still having sex no birth control nothing i hope that when she actually tries for a baby in the future that she cant get pregnant it’s karma and i hope she gets it. My other sister has two kids a girl thats 4 and a little boy that just turned one and honestly i have no clue what i would do without them they make my life worth living if she would have had an abortion i would have my amazing niece and nephew.
I hope whoever reads this really listens and does it the right way. And whoever reads this and has had an abortion you disgust me! and i have no idea how you could do that.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:11 am
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December 1st, 2007 at 2:14 am
Kascey- I agree with you 100% i just said the same exact thing to my cousin the other day its horrible i dont understand how people could do that there are so many people in this world that would love to have a baby but they can’t get pregnant and then there are people like this who have abortions when they could be one of those people that had a baby perfectly fine.
I’m sorry for your loss.
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 pm
umm okay who ever made this is stupid! CF isnt treatable!! and u dont live to be in 30’s not even close!!! 20s or younger. my aunt just died of it and she was 21. abortion at 7 months is so wrong! but living with CF sucks. i watched my aunt for years be in pain. u cant treat it. CF never goes away!!!!!!! u die from it!
December 4th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
This is MURDER! That baby could have lived a long time.. She shouldn’t have to be punished for something she didn’t cause!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
I CANT BELIEVE THAT MOTHER THINKS ITS OKAY TO KILL AN INNOCENT BABY THAT COULD HAVE LIVED A LONG AND HEATHY LIFE, BUT NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TOO. THE MOTHER OF THIS BABY HAS NO HEART WHAT SOO EVER. YEAH THATS RIGHT NO HEART.
December 10th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
having abortions is wrong…having sex is the main reason why girls end up pregnant…if u don’t want to have a baby then use a condem that is so simple….females are killin inncoent kids because they cannot take care of them…GOD gave u that baby for a reason and a purpose…there is is a reason and a purpose for everything…..i jus want all of you ladies to kno that killin babies is a sin god said that thou hall not kill…that is a commendment…so read ya bible…i have nuttin else to say besides i hope that all the women that are pregnant and don’t want the baby please give it up for adoption please do not kill the innocent babies…let them live their life…there are plenty of women out here who want to have kids but they can’t…if ou don’t want to love them please let sumone else love them…i will never have an abortion.
December 10th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
don’t kill a baby becuz of wat their sickness is…its called murder and since u killin the baby u will be going to hell so u betta repent…this is a scary thing to go through!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:09 am
You know all you people are are one minded and self centered. you dont really know why she had the abortion…people abort sometimes cuz of rape and experience. rather, would you want a poor girl have a kid in the enviornment she is and suffer with her kid with hunger and no clothes?
December 12th, 2007 at 10:19 am
You know all the people out there that think abortions are ok.. well you all are stupid… Abortions are wrong, you are killing something that has a little life. I am due in Feb and i am so excited. I have had two people in my family that has had an abortion and i will never forgive them for it.. If you dont want the kid or if you can afford it give it up for adoption. There are always other options besides abortions.
December 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 am
ABORTION IS WRONG!!!! God created each and everyone of these babies by hand and placed them in these mothers wombs, ITS NOT YOUR DECISION TO TAKE THEIR LIFE!!!! If you dont want kids, DONT HAVE SEX!!! And for the women who use “rape” as an excuse, the child was still created FOR A REASON and that babie is still half of you! THATS WHAT ADOPTION IS FOR!!! GIVE THESE BABIES A CHANCE TO LIVE! Stop killing Gods Creations!!!! This shouldnt even be an option!!! IT IS MURDER!! One day when you do have kids, why dont you picture your self walking into their bedroom while they are asleep and slicing them up in bed THATS THE SAME THING YOU DID WHEN YOU HAD AN ABORTION!!!! YOU SICK MINDED JERKS!
December 28th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
I think abortions are real so wrong to an unborn baby who done nothing wrong or any thing to hurt you. All the baby wanted was a chance to live an show you love, think about it there are many people want to a who wants to have a baby love a baby share a good life with a child but by you being so self-fish your baby misses a chance to be love and have a good life and those loving mothers who cant have kids misses out as well. I was going to get an abortoin but I had commonsence to think of some one other than my-self. Now I have a beautiful 2yr. old lil boy and I love every smile to every frown he makes and to him I’m the Queen 0f his no matter what I say or do cause he knows i still got his back and I LOVE HIM
December 28th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
I see abortion as RAPE!!!! why? an innocent woman should never been rape every body know and would not like that to happen to you or some you close to you but an innocent child shall never had been murder to me people thinks abortoins are OK. WELL!!! all of you people are some sick lames. NO MATTER how THE BABY was made you should give ti a chance at live even if that maens ADOPTION. Cause someone like me will love to have your child!!!
December 28th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Im 16 years old and haveing a baby…. at first i thought it was the worst idea ever but then i started to kinda think i should have had one but when i feel m,y little daughter kick inside of me i cry even thinking of hurting a little innocent baby such as mine.. I think its all up to the girl whether she wants to have an abortion but for me I think its a sad thing to do! Why would anyone want to take the life of a baby? its something everyone should ask them selfs before you get an abortion
December 30th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Well, the big problem of this topic is that there are two equally powerful sides of the debate. Consider the first:
Making abortion legal: Women/Girls feel less pressured by the whole ‘taking care of a baby’ thing and basically devoting many many years of their own lives for another’s. They therefore feel more free and go out and do more ‘things’ with more men (This could possibly lead to easier spread of STD’s). They are taking with their choice of abortion, an innocent child’s life…it’s like shooting someone with a gun, except worse…the baby has no choice whatsoever. The baby can’t decide whether it will live or not. It has to hope that its mother will make the right choice and give it life. But having abortion legal means that less fortunate women who make the mistake (which isn’t really a mistake…it’s your choice to use protection) who can’t care for the baby can back out, where as having it illegal means they must take care of the baby, and if they can’t take care of it (why they wanted abortion) then it will grow up in a ruddy home. These children are FAR more likely to turn to crime and get a poor education. When they grow up, they will be criminals-putting everyone in danger. Crime rates will rise if abortion is illegal.
Making abortion illegal:
Many babies lives will be spared, and they will have a chance at life. Killing a baby is murder…just like killing anyone else. Plus, those women who can’t get a baby for whichever reasons, feel less disgusted by those who can and choose to give up its life.
Really, it’s a tough debate…
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
aborting that baby was wrong of you lady. when u do want a child one day u wont have it because god will say she killed the first one y give her another chance do kill another poor innocent baby. u r disgusting & will be sinned.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:26 am
For all of you that have written about the ‘long’ life the baby with cistic fibrosis could have lived… dont believe every thing you read. Cistic Fibrosis is not treatable, and leaves the person affected to live a very painful and short life. For any of you that dont believe me, google it and see. The caption written under that photo is a clear example of twisitng the truth to provide an arguement for a pro-life campaign. PLEASE dont be so gullible in future and research statements like this before believing them.
For the record, I agree that 7 months is far too late to undergo an abortion… and I also agree that more women should give these babies up for adoption rather than aborting. however - I also would never be so presumptious to think that I have the right to judge another human being for their choices. All though you may all not agree with these womens choices, they are exactly that - these womens choices, not yours.
You are all more that entiteled to you opinions about this matter, but so are the women who undergo abortions. Neither opinion is wrong, and neither opinion is right - just different.
January 5th, 2008 at 2:53 am
i am a 26 yr old mother of 3 beautiful children. NO ONE has the right to play GOD. NO ONE has the right to decide whether someone lives or dies. Especially An innocent unborn child whom is as human as the rest of us.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
nothing like it has separated our society since the days of slavery, im in the 10th grade and i had to do a controversial research paper on abortion, when i first started working on it my opinions were pro-life, they still are, abortion is a terrible thing to do writing a paper on both sides and not being a blae to pick a side was so difficult, some of the reasoning behind pro-choicers are ridiculous.
if your not ready to have a child and to support the child dont have sex its as easy as that, if i still decide to have sex and get prego keep it if u dont want it theres always other choices rhan killing ur baby
January 7th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Hi all.
my names chelsea, i am 17 ill be 18 in augast i have just had a beautifull baby girl on the 12th of september but 2 years ago in march, the 24th i had a abortion, i was 16 weeks pregnant.I had to take 4 pills to dialate my cervix i was in agony for an hour and a half then the doctor came and got me and told me they where ready for me, i alked in this room shaking, cold and in alot of pain.
the last thing i said was i didnt want to do it anymore, it was too late i then woke up at 14:10,i stood up hoping my baby would still be there but it wasnt i jus poured out with blood that was left of my ”murdered” my unborn baby…i have never felt pain like that in my life and i hate myself for it everyday, i tried commiting suicide not long after that which i didnt sucseed to my disapointment. i know abortion is wrong and there is not 1 day that i dont say good morning and good night to my baby,i have a personal box in which i write every month.
I would do anything to get my baby back but i know i cant.
I just wanted to tell you all this because there is no1 on here who has actualy been through it and feels that pain of knowing you killed your unborn baby that pain is more hurtfull than any of your words of how evil teh people who have abortions are, you will never experiance the pain and regret we feel.
someone once told me only god can judge me and to this day i know when that day comes i will explain myself to him and him only. i do not owe anyone else a explanation just my unborn child and god himself.
im sorry if ive offended anyone but i needed you all to here this.
if you are thinking of abortion i will say this, yes abortion is your choice but please read this one more time and ask yourself if you want to see your babys blood pouring out of you.
my little angel is watching down on me and my daughter and i kno that baby knows he/she will always be my first baby and i loved that baby more than anything in this world.
chelsea…london…UK
January 10th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Im having a baby right now and im 15, the thought of abortion will NEVER come to my mind, i care if your going to kill apart of you no matter if it has a disorder or anything once you see that baby its like you wont be bale to give it up and you should jus love it.
But i also don’t disagree with what you choose to do with the baby i knew this girl who had a abortion when she was 7 months along and she could hear her baby scream
January 18th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
iam a mother of 3 wonderful children that i have watch grow up for the last 17 years in the last 17 years have been the best in my life to watch this mircle that God gave me of his own free will grow into such a beautiful person.how can you murder someone that cant speak this is a tiny little child that doesnt have a voice how can yo live with your self know you killed that special person that God gave to you. there is so many diffrent opintion out there adoption,giving it to a trusyed family memeber being a sergant for a family that cant have a child of there own.instead of being a murder why not be an angel to someone who would love and care for the baby.know matter if the baby is 1 day old or if you are in the nineth month it is still killing please stop the right to abortion it is wrong and remeber when you die you will have to answer to God why did you kill my child!!! your answer will not be good enough.rape being to young not ready or the baby may have a illness is no reason for this none what so ever.ihope that if you are thinking about abortion that you will dacide againist it.and if you choose to do the abortion i hope you can live with your self knowing you committed murder!!!!!!!!! may God be with you all
January 22nd, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I ‘m not sorry but people how even consider operation, is out of there mind and stupid! and after they take it out of there stomache the person spends the rest of there life crying around wishing they didn’t make that chose! Because as soon as that baby’s in you belly it’s alive and killing it will be very very painful.
January 22nd, 2008 at 1:09 pm
uh..i agree with every one that KNOWS abortion is wrong and stupid!
and DISagree with the people who even think of abortion!
January 22nd, 2008 at 1:09 pm
abortion sucks
January 23rd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
an abortion is the cruelest thing u can do…even wen u decide 2 have it at a late stage wen the baby is 7 months almost already born..these babys are inocent..please keep ur legs closedd or use all the birth control that there is itsss free anyways..so why not use iitt?? stay safe..Sayy NOOO 2 Abortions
January 24th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I honestly do not agree with abortion what so ever at all! In my eyes it is unhuman, selfish, ungratefull, and heartless. I just recently had a miscarriage and it hurt me so mich and I was only 3 months.Nobody wanted me to have the baby but the father. They would say I was too young and going to mes my life up. But now they got what they wanted, me not to be pregnant. People that abort are should not even have sex if its only going to lead to abortion. Its a cruel and sad thing to see a precios life gone to waist all because the mother did not want to deal with a sickness THAT COULD HAVE BEEN CURED!
January 29th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Poor thing, I went to an abortion clinic and walked right back out, morally I couldnt do it, I don’t have the heart. My prayers go out to babies like this, maybe they ARE better off in Gods hands… I hate abortion even more after I selfishly walked into the clinic, its what the dad wanted not me. BUT i would never ever do that.
February 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 am
Arguing over the Internet is like Arguing with a deaf, mute, & retarded horse… With that being said, I shall post my own opinion without having made a single point to you “pro-life” ignoramuses.
For all those who think abortion is “wrong…disgusting…sinful, etc.” You have your own opinions to uphold, but whether or not these women decide to do it is their decision. The majority of the people of this board sound like completely ignorant pounds of human flesh. You believe in the fact that this is wrong to do, that this would be killing an innocent child. I feel more for the mother who decided to keep the child, watched it grow, and have it turn into a serial killer, or a pedophile rapist. How’s that for innocent life?
Calling these poor women murderers is rather distasteful in the sense that you treat the situation as if the mother was some sort of horrid slut that had no view for the “consequences of sex.” Why not also put the responsibility on the man who also is rather pushing of sexual matters, who sometimes takes no for an answer and “forgetting the condom”. There are so many men that do not even acknowledge their children. So it is left only to the woman to raise it? That seems quite unfair and biased don’t you think?
For those that keep upholding the bible, “thou shalt not kill” what happened to forgiveness?
“A man’s wisdom gives him patience; it is to his glory to
overlook an offense.”
I believe in God, but in reading everyone’s comments, you seem ill-informed and prejudiced. You should not judge thy neighbor (however, this obviously doesn’t apply to you because you throw judgments of these “wrong sluts, who didn’t take any consideration for the life of an innocent” ; however, but do you feel guilty, of course not).
I am pro-choice, but that does not make me a murderer, nor a lost soul. Jesus died for our sins, and those sins include everything from lying to killing one another. Even murderers get into heaven because they ask for Jesus Christ’s forgiveness. If you repent you shall be saved. For those that might disagree, that state you are bound to hell for your actions (blah blah blah), I will not say you are wrong, because no one is sure. Only HE knows and ONLY HE IS ALLOWED to judge:
“But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and
keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live;
he will not die.
22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him.
Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live.”
“ For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father
will also forgive you.
But if you do NOT forgive men their sins, your Father will NOT forgive
YOUR sins.”
You, who so passionately believe in the word of the Lord, should take the time to read all of its contents instead of being “picky” to whatever suits you. The bible also mentions this of our children:
21:15 “Anyone who attacks his father or his mother must be put to death.
17 “Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.”
Do we uphold its teachings, nope. We put up with whatever suffering a child brings us. If we took the time to uphold these teaching, we would be righteously bringing the life of an insubordinate child to rest. Does that seem wrong and disgusting? It’s in the bible. READ IT NEIGHBOR!! If that is what God wants we shall obey. Right? Nope, we choose not to uphold certain parts of the bible. Just as you, the people writing comments, are not upholding the bible as well. Do I say, you are going straight to hell, no. It is not my place to say such a thing. Judgment will await you from HIM.
It is sort of like the accident of 9/11. How cruel is it to call the people burning to their deaths “jumpers” when they had no other choice? You who are quick to jump to my statements should have the same situation and your decision would bring a smile to a lot of people: Burn slowly to a crispy jerky death… OR… jump from many stories to your splattered death? The choice is yours: Death or Death. It is quite up to you.
Which brings me to another point, not all these “sinful, disgusting, murderers” have such cheerful choices. You do not understand the pain that comes with having an abortion, the psychological trauma, nor the information that comes with making such a choice.
There are so many unwanted pregnancies, and for those that keep the child are in for a long road of suffering and pain. How upsetting is it when your child decides to commit suicide after only 14 years of living? Innocent, I think not. Suicide is the only sin that will(for those that believe in God, [Atheists ignore this]) send you straight to hell.
This is so much fun writing about all of this, what makes it more fun is that the majority of the people on this board will not see the truth, will not want to accept it and become angry for their ignorance. Telling me once again, that I am “wrong” to think all these things. Ah Free-will. Ah Humanity.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
im 6 weeks pregnant and just came from the hospital cuz im bleeding. i was scheduled to terminate my pregnancy today at noon but my appointment was resheduled. i dont even believe in abortions. but here i am waitin for my appointment. for those of u that think ‘we r not human’ we r murderers’ or’hearltess’ u have no idea. u have no idea what i have been through this last week since findin out i was pregnant. u have no idea the nightmares i have every single night. u have no idea how much i want my baby. and u have no idea how scared i am of losin my life or my babys life when it is born. im high risk, i have a problem with my blood and especially when i get pregnant its even worse and i get bloodclots. sometimes these can be deadly. ive had them in my lungs, my arms, my legs, everywhere. no im not blamin anyone cuz i was irresponsible and took the chance when i knw the risks. yeah i was stupid. ill be the very first to admit that. even as i write this im unsure. i dont know how im goin to be able to walk into that clinic next week after seein my baby on that screen and hearin its heartbeat. dont tell me that i dont love my baby. dont tell me that im a heartless human bein when u dont even know me. i may not even make it until next week cuz of the bleedin. but u have no right to judge me. as i had no right to judge others. unless u r in my shoes. because i not once ever thought i would have an abortion willingly. i was like most of u, judgin people tellin them how stupid they r and selfish and ignorant. now its me, now im in that same posistion. im scared to death. this already is hauntin me and i havent even done it yet so dont try to tell me how im goin to feel. i already know. im already feelin it. see i thought abortion was a choice, and i was wrong, sometimes its our only choice and if u dont or wont understand then i cant make u, i will pray to God that my baby feels no pain and goes into his lovin arms safely. i pray that God will forgive me and understand and know that i love my baby so much
February 17th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Most of you who are posting these comments, are highly uniformed and forming opinions based only on emotion. Late abortion of course I understand can be very negative; however, if abortion is made illegal, all abortion will be illegal, including that for mentally retarded women who are sexually assualted, become pregnant and have the baby in a toilet somewhere. Come on people…the idea is that it’s necessary in certain situations. As a nurse I think you should think of every possible situation, not base a judgement simply on the fact that you think something is cruel. What about those 11 year old girls raped by their uncles who become pregnant, would you like them to give birth as well??? There is a place for everything…including abortion
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:12 am
Cystic Fibrosis may be TREATABLE, but it is not CURABLE. The LUCKY ONES die at 20 or 30. My cousin, however, died at the age of 15.
Maybe you should do a little research. If you guys don’t believe me though, you are MORE than welcome to research it yourselves.
I do support that mother’s opinion, however. She carried it for seven months–that’s DEDICATION. She WANTED it. She aborted it because she didn’t want her poor child to suffer and die young. I feel for her, that must be devastating.
February 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I would just like to say that abortion is MURDER. I understand that there are some circumstances, such as the baby will eventually die due to an illness. But if abortion is a choice for people out there because they are not ready to have children they should be the ones murdered, not an innocent baby. There are how many people out there that would take a child whether it be mentally challenged or not. Some people are not capable of conceiving and they would do anything to have a child. From what i understand people are saying that if you were raped its a choice for them to abort the baby. There are other options, its called ADOPTION.
February 25th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
WhY get pregnant and have a kid if ur just gonna kill the poor innocent child ONLY GOD can CHOOSE 2 take someones life away not the mother or the father only god can. And he always has his reasons but one thing thats for sure GOD did not choose ABORTION and neither should u …….u should be a shamed of urself how can u sleep at night knowing that u killed something made out of ur own flesh and blood ….its like killing urself…..think about it ….
March 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I’m 15 and 3 months along and would never consider abortion and even though there’s adoption I’m not considering it either I’m going to take care of this baby no matter what the outcomes of the health of the bby are its my responsibility now. ill love it no matter what. the father of the baby may not be around but ill still have the support of family and friends ABORTION IS MURDER!!@!@ IF U KILL A BBY YOU’RE A MURDERER NO MATTER HOW OLD THE BBY IS …ITS STILL ALIVE AT 2WEEKS THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THIS THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU MURDER YOUR BABY AND CONSIDER ADOPTION IF yOURE FINACIALLY UNSTABLE OR SIMPLY CAN’T TAKE CARE OF THE BABY
March 6th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Hey I had an abortion not cuz I wanted 2 but because my mom made me and second of all I was only 5 weeks. Npw I’m pregnant again cuz birthcontrol didn’t work I don’t know what 2 do but I don’t want 2 abort my child it hurts 2 much. This will kill me of I have 2 do this again
March 7th, 2008 at 5:25 am
…: we must stop abortion activities now..,many innocent lives are at risk at this kind of illegal activities that is a big mistake in our generation today… let’s not waste lives… lets put in mind that every human being have their own rights to be alive even babies… lets stop abortion now… put in mind that only God can get what he had given us…
_ sweet gemenarians_
March 9th, 2008 at 3:08 am
i’m 15 and have a 2 month old son and he is my world I wanted to have a baby so me and my boyfriend planned It out. I’m not stupid because I go to school and have everything I need and want and I could’t be happier.
March 13th, 2008 at 11:07 am
all i can say is abortion is a sin, i got pregnant at the age of 20 and he dnt want to give my child a name, i was so afraid then, i was 6 months on the way then and i was still plannin to abort it, though i really dont want to, but in my mind i had to, i was so afraid that my parents will kill me for it, till i decided to tell them and they told me we had nothing to do with it, coz it happened already, i am so glad i ddnt go for an abortion, now my daughter is a year and a half, shes a very beautiful and smart little girl, now im workin abroad so that i will be able to give her a good future, she is my life and soon we will be together, so if ur plannin to have an abortion, think about it one hundred times, coz u will never know what will u loose if u do that……..
March 13th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
~I AM YOUNG.I HAVE 2 CHILDREN.A BABYS HEART STARTS BEATING AT 18 DAYS OLD.A BABY IS FULLY DEVELOPED AT 3 MONTHS OLD AND JUST NEEDS TO MATURE AND GROW. HOW CAN PPL SAY THAT ABORTION IS NOT MURDER.?THERE IS ALWAYS ADOPTION.THERE ARE SO MANY PPL THAT CANT HAVE BABIES AND WANT THEM.IT IS UP TO GOD IF THEY LIVE OR DIE..IF YOU CHOOSE FOR GOD JUST REMEMBER WHEN YOU DIE YOU HAVE GOD TO FACE,,,IF YOU GO TO HEAVEN.AND THAT BABY WILL BE THERE TOO .IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO PPL THAT HURT CHILDREN…SAYING BABIES AND EMBRYOS DONT FEEL PAIN???18 DAYS IS ALL IT TAKES FOR A BABYS HEART TO START BEATING.THINK ABOUT IT AND CHOOSE LIFE! EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON…FOR ALL THOSE BABIES OUT THERE THAT DIED BY YOUR MOTHERS CHOICE & BY HER HAND..IM SORRY AND I WISH I COULDVE KEPT YOU FOR MYSELF! TO MY 2 BABIES..I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE MINE!!
March 14th, 2008 at 12:00 am
~15 YEARS OF LIFE IS BETTER THAN NO LIFE AT ALL. IF I WAS PREGNANT AND BLEEDING ID LET GOD DECIDE. IF I LOST MY LIFE..THAT IS WHAT GOD WANTED.ID TAKE THE CHANCE. ID SACRAFICE MY LIFE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF MY CHILD MAKING IT AND GROWING UP.BEING EXISTANT. I AM NOT JUDGING AND SYMPATHIZE…YOU SHOULDVE USED PROTECTION OR NOT HAD SEX…JUST PRAY.THATS WHAT I WOULD DO!!
March 14th, 2008 at 12:14 am
~HAVING SEX AND NOT BEING MARRIED IS A SIN YES..BUT IT DOESNT KILL AN INNOCENT SOUL ITS NOT THE SAME…R U SERIOUS???~
March 14th, 2008 at 12:23 am
~POP…THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED ADOPTION. WHEN A WOMAN HAS A BABY THE NURSES ASK HER IF SHE WANTS TO GIVE HER BABY UP. IT IS FREE AND ID TAKE THE CHANCE OF MY BABY GROWING UP TO BE A PSYCHO.ITS NOT UP TO ME.GOD IS THE KEEPER OF SOULS NOT ME. MY BABIES ARE MY GIFT FROM GOD.~
March 14th, 2008 at 12:30 am
~I AM ONLY TRYING TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABOUT TO MAKE THE WORST MISTAKE AND ABORT! FOR THE WOMEN THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE IT..IM SORRY FOR THOSE INNOCENT BABIES!! HOPEFULLY I CAN CONVINCE THE WOMEN OR YOUNG GIRLS THAT ARE ABOUT TO DO IT..TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT. THINGS MAY BE ROUGH BUT THINGS HAPPEN AND LIFE WILL GET BETTER.HAVING THAT BABY MIGHT MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER!!THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HOLDING YOUR BABY FOR THE FIRST TIME..THOSE LITTLE EYES..HEARING THE BABY CRY..AS SOON AS THE DOCTOR PUTS IT IN YOUR ARMS..IT LOOKS UP INTO YOUR EYES STOPS CRYING YOU TALK TO IT AND IT KNOWS YOUR VOICE. ITS LIKE YOU’VE ALREADY MET. IT LOOOKS AT YOU AND A CONTENT LOOK IS IN ITS EYES…THE BABY FEELS SAFE AND KNOWS IT IS LOVED!~
March 14th, 2008 at 12:37 am
~AS FAR AS THE COMMENT ABOUT WHAT THE NURSE SAID..11 YEAR OLDS IT IS RARE THAT AN 11 YR OLD GETS PREGNANT. BUT IF SHE DOES BY RAPE OR SEX…SHE STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH PAIN ANYWAY. AN ABORTION IS PAINFUL(IVE HEARD) AND IT COULD RISK THE 11 YR OLDS LIFE!!
March 14th, 2008 at 12:44 am
~ I USE TO FEEL THAT IT WAS THE WOMANS CHOICE..THEN I GOT PREGNANT AND MY VIEWS HAVE CHANGED COMPLETLY!! I AM YOUNG AND THE FATHER OF MY BABIES WHO I WAS MARRIED TO BAILED. EVEN IF HE WANTED ME TO ABORT THEM I WOULDN’T HAVE.YES I WAS SCARED ABORTION NEVER CROSSED MY MIND.THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER OPTION!~
March 20th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
my nephew has cystic fibrosis!!! he is fine!!! his mother knew, but whats the point? that is just like killing a dear alive relative!
March 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
I don’t want to be judgemental at all. I understand why someone would be scared and decide to have an abortion. But just think about it before you do. That little “fetus” inside of you, is a life. And abortion deprives that little baby of his or her life. I know some of you may not realize this, but it is murder. From the moment of conception, there is life. And when you take that life, you are killing someone. Yes, God will forgive you if you repent. But if you truely repent, you won’t do it again. So for all of you Pro-choice people, think about that again. There is always adoption, and birth control pills. There is really just no excuse. Many people who are against the death penalty, are for aborion. that is contridictory. They are both taking life. Only abortion is taking the life of the innocent. Some of the people on this blog have made the statement that abortion is okay if the pregnancy is caused by rape or if there is a possibility that harm will come to the baby or the mother, but you know what? Only 1% of all abortions is because of rape, only 6% is because of health related, and the remaining 93%, is because that child was “unwanted” or inconvinient”…. As for the people who are raped, you could put that poor little baby up for adoption. Tons of americans today would love to have a child, but are unable. And for the people who have the possibility of harm, i really don’t know what to tell you. but what i will say is that there is usually something that the doctors can do to help, and if you didn’t want to get pregnant, you should have used birth control. and do you think it is right for you to live but not the baby? Like i said, i don’t want to be judgemental, but if you had seen some of the pictures of aborted babies that i have seen today, you would understand. it is the most cruel, brutal, and pitiful sight i have ever seen.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
ALL I COULD SAY IS THAT ITS SICK SEEN WOMEN
HAVING AN ABORTION AT 24 WEEKS WHEN THEIR
BABY CAN HEAR AND THEY HAVE A HEART BEAT AND
JUST KNOWING THEY ARE ALIVE…IT BREAKS MY HEART
TO KNOW ITS PEOPLE LIKE THIS IN THE WORLD…
I HAVE A MONTH AND A HALF OLD SON AND I WAS AMAZED TO SEE EVERYTHING HE DID WHEN HE WAS
IN MY BELLY…WHY KILL A BABY IF HIS LIFE AND YOUR LIFE IS NOT IN DANGER…THOSE WOMEN SHOULD WONDER WHAT WAS THE BABY GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN THE GREW UP..HOW WERE THEY GOING TO BE…BUT THEY NEVER GONNA KNOW BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO END THEIR LIFE…
March 31st, 2008 at 12:29 am
Thats just sick, Abortion should be illegal! No matter what! That baby could of came out with very minor CF not everyone has it really bad!
April 7th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Damn….
all i could do is pray.
THI