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> <channel><title>Comments on: Tiller Wins Stanek&#8217;s &#8220;Abortionist of the Year&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/</link> <description>Operation Rescue® is one of the leading pro-life Christian activist organizations in the nation and has become the voice of the pro-life activist movement in America. Its activities are on the cutting edge of the abortion issue, taking direct action to restore legal personhood to the pre-born and stop abortion in obedience to biblical mandates.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:45:50 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Mary</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-87814</link> <dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-87814</guid> <description>Stacey,I could hardly be called a &quot;bible thumper&quot; and Jill can say what she darn well pleases.  My point is that an important pro-life message can be lost when one isn&#039;t careful how that message is presented.  What is accomplished if you turn people off to your message by sounding ignorant and bigoted?  Like it or not, people will judge you by how you present a message and present yourself, and they will also judge your message by how its presented.   People were not outraged over the truth of abortion, which is what  is desired.  Rather, they were outraged over racial and ethnic stereotypes in the message.   A very good pro-life message was completely lost.
I personally find the use of stereotypes disturbing and feel their use can only hurt the cause you represent.  As I said, Jill is very capable of writing good articles, but in my opinion, should be more careful of her use of certain terminology and how it comes across.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacey,</p><p>I could hardly be called a &#8220;bible thumper&#8221; and Jill can say what she darn well pleases.  My point is that an important pro-life message can be lost when one isn&#8217;t careful how that message is presented.  What is accomplished if you turn people off to your message by sounding ignorant and bigoted?  Like it or not, people will judge you by how you present a message and present yourself, and they will also judge your message by how its presented.   People were not outraged over the truth of abortion, which is what  is desired.  Rather, they were outraged over racial and ethnic stereotypes in the message.   A very good pro-life message was completely lost.<br
/> I personally find the use of stereotypes disturbing and feel their use can only hurt the cause you represent.  As I said, Jill is very capable of writing good articles, but in my opinion, should be more careful of her use of certain terminology and how it comes across.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stacey</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-87797</link> <dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:09:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-87797</guid> <description>Hey bible thumpers, it&#039;s not for you to judge whether someone is a christian or not.  God gave us free will as he did not want to make us into robots. The way Jill choses to get her point across is her business.  Too bad if people become outraged over truth, I&#039;m outraged over the fact that people murder babies.  Not everyone reacts to stimuli the same way.  You conduct your  business the way you see fit and let the rest of God&#039;s children conduct it the way they see fit.  If God has a problem with one of us, he&#039;ll let us know, not you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bible thumpers, it&#8217;s not for you to judge whether someone is a christian or not.  God gave us free will as he did not want to make us into robots. The way Jill choses to get her point across is her business.  Too bad if people become outraged over truth, I&#8217;m outraged over the fact that people murder babies.  Not everyone reacts to stimuli the same way.  You conduct your  business the way you see fit and let the rest of God&#8217;s children conduct it the way they see fit.  If God has a problem with one of us, he&#8217;ll let us know, not you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mary</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-87142</link> <dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:47:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-87142</guid> <description>I have done more browsing of Ms. Stanek&#039;s previous and present articles.  While I find some of them excellent, including the one on the Tiller &quot;award&quot;,  I have been deeply disturbed by others, which contained insensitive racial and ethnic stereotypes and commentary.
The pro-life message will not get across to people who take great offense at what they perceive as racially or ethnically insensitive comments.
In her article on the Lakota tribe&#039;s decision to ban any abortion clinic on the reservation, she uses such terms such as scalping, refers to a Native American journalist as &quot;chief&quot;, and brings up George Custer, a subject better left not talked about at all!  Needless to say Lakota readers responded with outrage!  What otherwise could have been a very thought provoking article which may well have changed minds and stimulated debate instead only generated outrage, and readers who were completely put off by what they perceived as appalling ignorance.
In a more recent article, Ms. Stanek refers to the &quot;Italian abortion Mafia&quot;, I don&#039;t know if that even makes sense, and praises Michael Corleone&#039;s slapping his wife in the movie &quot;The Godfather II&quot;, after she informed him of her abortion, as an example of a good family man.  Needless to say this also generated outrage, including some comments from myself and other pro-lifers, as well as Italian Americans.  I had a serious issue with sociopathic killers, real or imagined, being used as role models of good family men, as well as what I saw as the trivializing of domestic violence.  This is especially disturbing coming from a woman who calls herself Christian.
Ms. Stanek can write good articles, but she needs to be more careful as to what she says and how it is coming across.  In these articles, she makes pro-lifers look like knuckle draggers and only hurts a cause she, and all of us hold dear.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done more browsing of Ms. Stanek&#8217;s previous and present articles.  While I find some of them excellent, including the one on the Tiller &#8220;award&#8221;,  I have been deeply disturbed by others, which contained insensitive racial and ethnic stereotypes and commentary.<br
/> The pro-life message will not get across to people who take great offense at what they perceive as racially or ethnically insensitive comments.<br
/> In her article on the Lakota tribe&#8217;s decision to ban any abortion clinic on the reservation, she uses such terms such as scalping, refers to a Native American journalist as &#8220;chief&#8221;, and brings up George Custer, a subject better left not talked about at all!  Needless to say Lakota readers responded with outrage!  What otherwise could have been a very thought provoking article which may well have changed minds and stimulated debate instead only generated outrage, and readers who were completely put off by what they perceived as appalling ignorance.<br
/> In a more recent article, Ms. Stanek refers to the &#8220;Italian abortion Mafia&#8221;, I don&#8217;t know if that even makes sense, and praises Michael Corleone&#8217;s slapping his wife in the movie &#8220;The Godfather II&#8221;, after she informed him of her abortion, as an example of a good family man.  Needless to say this also generated outrage, including some comments from myself and other pro-lifers, as well as Italian Americans.  I had a serious issue with sociopathic killers, real or imagined, being used as role models of good family men, as well as what I saw as the trivializing of domestic violence.  This is especially disturbing coming from a woman who calls herself Christian.<br
/> Ms. Stanek can write good articles, but she needs to be more careful as to what she says and how it is coming across.  In these articles, she makes pro-lifers look like knuckle draggers and only hurts a cause she, and all of us hold dear.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 4life</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85588</link> <dc:creator>4life</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:37:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85588</guid> <description>Does anyone know if HIPAA protects release of info. of rapes on minors? This is what I was told by a pro-choicer but it doesn&#039;t seem right to me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if HIPAA protects release of info. of rapes on minors? This is what I was told by a pro-choicer but it doesn&#8217;t seem right to me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 4life</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85570</link> <dc:creator>4life</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:14:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85570</guid> <description>P.S.The Imnotsorry site has hoodies,coffee mugs and stationary available with their logo. Talk about bottom of the barrel.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.The Imnotsorry site has hoodies,coffee mugs and stationary available with their logo. Talk about bottom of the barrel.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 4life</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85561</link> <dc:creator>4life</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85561</guid> <description>Mary and Frank.Thank you for your support.I went to the board once again today. A lot of the bashing came from a PP intern. I asked her about reporting rapes of minors ,and she told me it&#039;s against HIPPA to do so. They said that they even feel that the Florida baby thrown onto the   roof was all made up. Gee then why did I hear it on the local news,in my local paper,and saw video of it on cable stations and You Tube?Frank,another girl said she wasn&#039;t sorry about her abortion. She referred me to the Imnotsorry site. I found it to be awful. These people really DON&#039;T want to hear any truth. I saw a lot of denial. Once again,I thank evryone on this board for helping me come to terms with it all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary and Frank.Thank you for your support.I went to the board once again today. A lot of the bashing came from a PP intern. I asked her about reporting rapes of minors ,and she told me it&#8217;s against HIPPA to do so. They said that they even feel that the Florida baby thrown onto the   roof was all made up. Gee then why did I hear it on the local news,in my local paper,and saw video of it on cable stations and You Tube?Frank,another girl said she wasn&#8217;t sorry about her abortion. She referred me to the Imnotsorry site. I found it to be awful. These people really DON&#8217;T want to hear any truth. I saw a lot of denial. Once again,I thank evryone on this board for helping me come to terms with it all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mary</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85503</link> <dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:33:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85503</guid> <description>Frank,Like you I have also toured Tiller&#039;s web page.  I found it interesting that his staff was described as people with years of experience in providing compassionate abortion care.  How interesting nothing was said of their education, credentials, or licensing.  That&#039;s because they have none.  I&#039;m sure we all appreciate compassionate care, but do we want our care provided by people not properly trained or licensed?4life,
What you observed is certainly not surprising.  People don&#039;t like unpleasant facts that stare them in the face.  There has to be some way to &quot;explain&quot; them.  That&#039;s why we have Holocaust deniers, and  those who will viciously attack abuse and rape victims as &quot;asking for it&quot;.
You will all too often hear the most vicious vitriol spewed at people who are doing nothing more than telling people what they don&#039;t want to hear.  Ever notice how it usually comes from the very people who consider themselves such bastions of tolerance?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p><p>Like you I have also toured Tiller&#8217;s web page.  I found it interesting that his staff was described as people with years of experience in providing compassionate abortion care.  How interesting nothing was said of their education, credentials, or licensing.  That&#8217;s because they have none.  I&#8217;m sure we all appreciate compassionate care, but do we want our care provided by people not properly trained or licensed?</p><p>4life,<br
/> What you observed is certainly not surprising.  People don&#8217;t like unpleasant facts that stare them in the face.  There has to be some way to &#8220;explain&#8221; them.  That&#8217;s why we have Holocaust deniers, and  those who will viciously attack abuse and rape victims as &#8220;asking for it&#8221;.<br
/> You will all too often hear the most vicious vitriol spewed at people who are doing nothing more than telling people what they don&#8217;t want to hear.  Ever notice how it usually comes from the very people who consider themselves such bastions of tolerance?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frank</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85499</link> <dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85499</guid> <description>4Life:&quot;Talk about pro aborts posts dripping with hate.I think I was the only pro lifer on there yesterday[besides Jill] They said that pics of aborted babies are fake and our pro life signs are garbage.They argued that a baby was not human etc.It was bad.Also,a lot of them were praising Tiller.&quot;--I&#039;ve often commented that part of the problem that prolifers face is the large number of people out there who are simply uneducated about the facts of abortion, or naive, or the like.--However, your post exposes a corollary:  Some people  DO know better, and/or DO know the truth, etc., but choose to ignore it.  The posters you are referring to have apparently made a deliberate choice to side with the &quot;bad guys.&quot;  This is tragic enough, for them.  The fact that their position aids and abets killing of innocents is even worse.  One site, Imnotsorry.net, is positively spine chilling.  These people are just really, really scary.  Many appear villed with venomous hate not only for babies, women, men, etc. -- in short, for  the whole human race.--Praising Tiller?  Claiming the pix are fake?  I suspect many who do these things know in their hearts that they are wrong, but they simply want to avoid having to make the right, if difficult, moral choices.  Claiming pictures are fake is a lot easier than admitting that if they are real, then maybe abortion shouldn&#039;t be used as a means of birth control...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4Life:</p><p>&#8220;Talk about pro aborts posts dripping with hate.I think I was the only pro lifer on there yesterday[besides Jill] They said that pics of aborted babies are fake and our pro life signs are garbage.They argued that a baby was not human etc.It was bad.Also,a lot of them were praising Tiller.&#8221;</p><p>&#8211;I&#8217;ve often commented that part of the problem that prolifers face is the large number of people out there who are simply uneducated about the facts of abortion, or naive, or the like.</p><p>&#8211;However, your post exposes a corollary:  Some people  DO know better, and/or DO know the truth, etc., but choose to ignore it.  The posters you are referring to have apparently made a deliberate choice to side with the &#8220;bad guys.&#8221;  This is tragic enough, for them.  The fact that their position aids and abets killing of innocents is even worse.  One site, Imnotsorry.net, is positively spine chilling.  These people are just really, really scary.  Many appear villed with venomous hate not only for babies, women, men, etc. &#8212; in short, for  the whole human race.</p><p>&#8211;Praising Tiller?  Claiming the pix are fake?  I suspect many who do these things know in their hearts that they are wrong, but they simply want to avoid having to make the right, if difficult, moral choices.  Claiming pictures are fake is a lot easier than admitting that if they are real, then maybe abortion shouldn&#8217;t be used as a means of birth control&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 4life</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85460</link> <dc:creator>4life</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:47:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85460</guid> <description>I visited Jill&#039;s message board.Talk about pro aborts posts dripping with hate.I think I was the only pro lifer on there yesterday[besides Jill] They said that pics of aborted babies are fake and our pro life signs are garbage.They argued that a baby was not human etc.It was bad.Also,a lot of them were praising Tiller.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited Jill&#8217;s message board.Talk about pro aborts posts dripping with hate.I think I was the only pro lifer on there yesterday[besides Jill] They said that pics of aborted babies are fake and our pro life signs are garbage.They argued that a baby was not human etc.It was bad.Also,a lot of them were praising Tiller.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frank</title><link>http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/tiller-wins-stanek%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cabortionist-of-the-year%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-85236</link> <dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:44:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=579#comment-85236</guid> <description>I couldn&#039;t help but scroll around George Tiller&#039;s web site.When I saw his photo and his nice placid grin and his unassuming looks, I couldn&#039;t help but think of Shakespeare&#039;s comment that one may &quot;smile, and smile, and be a villain.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but scroll around George Tiller&#8217;s web site.</p><p>When I saw his photo and his nice placid grin and his unassuming looks, I couldn&#8217;t help but think of Shakespeare&#8217;s comment that one may &#8220;smile, and smile, and be a villain.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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