George Tiller’s Political Action Committee Documents Name Names
WICHITA, KS – Two reports obtained by Operation Rescue reveal the names and addresses of every contributor to late-term abortionist George Tiller’s Political Action Committee (PAC), ProKanDo, from July 23 through December 31, 2004, and includes disbursements for the General Elections held last November. (View Documents)
The purpose of ProKanDo is to elect politicians who will work to protect Tiller’s notorious, world-renown late-term abortion business that has earned Wichita, Kansas, the dubious title of the Abortion Capital of America.
“This is the ultimate Abortion Collaborator list,” said OR president Troy Newman. “We now know the names and addresses of everyone who not only gives Tiller money to protect his child-killing empire, but also the names and addresses of those who profit from the blood money disbursed by his PAC.”
ProKanDo has come under fire recently for its controversial methods of disbursing funds through other PACs. Operation Rescue has learned that Kansans for Moderate Government received 48.2% of all money expended by PKD from July 23 through October 21, 2004, and 34% of all PKD expenditures from October 22 through December 31, 2004.
“This is a questionable contribution practice that appears something akin to a money-laundering scheme, ” said Newman. “It removes the direct connection between Tiller and the campaign contribution.”
The State of Kansas requires that Political Action Committees file Receipts and Expenditure Reports to the Kansas Governmental Ethics Commission. ProKanDo’s documents are signed by PKD Treasurer JoAn Armentrout, Tiller’s bookkeeper and acting clinic manager who stepped in after two of Tiller’s office managers quit last year during Operation Rescue’s “Year of Rebuke” exposure campaign.
The documents show contributions from across the spectrum of the liberal community including entertainers, university professors, attorneys, and other abortionists. The contributions come from all over the United States.
“There are a number of abortionists on these lists,” notes Newman. “They know if they help Tiller stay in business, they are helping themselves as well. Abortionists across America are acutely aware that if Tiller’s abortion empire falls, theirs is not far behind.”
Tiller’s ProKanDo had a dismal success rate during the last election cycle. Operation Rescue found only two candidates receiving campaign contributions from ProKanDo that won election, while all others lost. Newman was not surprised by the news. “It seems that an endorsement from ProKanDo is the equivalent to a political ‘kiss of death.’”
I hope you will be posting the names, addresses of every contributor to late-term abortionist George Tiller’s Political Action Committee
These people need to have the light of truth expose their dark deeds.
If Ray Croc were still alive today, would there be entire internet sites set up against him for making the world fat? no, i didn’t think so. even though people die because they are too fat, and McDonalds contributes to a large part of it, everyone still sees that it is ridiculous to blame the company and not the consumer. it really is the same thing in this case. You choose whether or not you want to get fat and possibly die, and whether or not you want to get and abortion. Honestly, this isnt even much of an exaggeration.
Zach,
What have you been smoking? The vast majority of children taken into a MacDonald’s and subjected to a happy meal come out alive; the vast majority of children taken into an abortion mill and subjected to an induced abortion do not.
One abortion is much more likely to kill the child’s mother than one Big Mac with fries and a Coke.
And there’s another difference: it’s politically correct to advertise the dangers of eating at MacDonald’s (et al), but not to expose the dangers of getting your “health care” at Planned Parenthood (et al)…
Get a life…and some perspective, before you presume to address a thinking, caring audience on life and death matters again.
Zach, sweetheart..how old are you? 8? Before you jump and say anything about a real situation, something thats important..go to your mommy and asks for facts. And plus..Mcdonalds has the low-fat yogert thingie. HAHAHA !
-Ashley
Ending a pregnancy is an unfortunate choice just like removing life support from a loved one. Some mothers-to-be die as a result of getting an abortion. Abortion has a low death rate compared to other medical procedures like heart surgery and medications like Vioxx. So with this logic abortion can’t be banned. What needs to be determined is when the fetus is advanced to be a purposeful being aware of surroundings and able to feel.
Rodney,
I pity you for your lack of understanding when it comes to the impact of abortion. You say, “Abortion has a low death rate compared to other medical procedures…” This is a ridiculous statement considering the fact that abortion results in a 100% death rate for one of the two people involved. The mother is also in serious danger, medically and psychologically. Unfortunately, many people like you do not factor in the life of the child and simply show concern for the mother who hires a murderer to kill her child.
Well, there is where the arguement stops: calling a underdeveloped fetus a “child.” I personally do not think of a fetus as any more of a “child” than the egg I ate for breakfast being a chicken. And calling the doctors murders is such a childish and ridiculous mannerism. Assuming that you have religious support for your anti-abortion stance, I assume you use the “It’s against God’s will” arguement. Let’s bring into question God’s will. Would you say that it is God’s will for babies to die at childbirth of natural causes other than abortion? If so, what makes abortion different? My guess would be that it is the product of Man’s free will, and not God’s will. If it was against God’s will, then how come He lets it go on? Either He doesnt have any real power (He was able to create the universe in 7 days, but cant protect one fetus?), man’s will is stronger than God’s will, God doesnt care about the fetus, or God is unfair and cruel. Which is it? I’m curious as to a solid answer to this.
Jeff,
I realize that it may be a hard concept for you to grasp, that is, ” the will of God”. So I won’t try in this format, but I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that abortion is murder and it is definitely against His Word. His Word explains that to take another human life, especially one so innocent, is to murder. Try to put your mind around that. To answer your last question, His Word tells us that above all, He is Just! His Judgements will stand.
Jeff,
Granted an unborn child’s physical maturity progresses throughout it’s development. However, this is just what the human person does throughout the span of it’s life after it has been born as well. A child at 2 months has different characteristics than a child at 1 year. A child of 5 years has different characteristics than a 25 year old man. A 25 year old woman has different characteristics than an a woman of 70. The thing is that it is clearly a human person throughout, There is no time after conception when the DNA suddenly alters and it becomes a human. The child is the same from virtually the first moments of life – at conception. If uninhibited the child will continue to develop and matue just as we all do. Yes, sometimes complications arise. Just as people develop cancer and sometimes die, unborn children also may experience complications and die. Even if that death is inside the womb. However, since that child was developing and with it’s own unique DNA (it is amazing at how early of a stage that the child develops the organs and features that it will carry for it’s life) that is exactly what it is a death. Very unfortunate, just as it is unfortunate when any beloved member of a family dies. My wife and I experienced this 5 times. However, once we were blessed to have a child born into this world. She as very early – only 3 pounds but I saw premies while she was in the hospital who were born at barely one pound and these children survived and most like my daughter are thriving. I have seen and experienced enough to realize how beautiful and tenuous life is. God bless,
I do not believe that Jeff’s question about god’s will was answered. I hear people all the time say that abortion is a black and white issue. It is always wrong and never right.
They say things like, if someone is raped they should not have an abortion because it must have been god’s will to have the woman get pregnant. Or they say that there is never a reason for an abortion, since god would never give you more than you can handle. I say that if real reproductive education were available in schools, more people would choose not to put themsleves into situations where they may feel they need to have an abortion. If birth control were available to all people equally we would not have this problem. If it is gods will to get a victim pregnant, what more does he expect of her?
God created evil [Isaiah 45:7] to give man a legitimate choice to love Him or not [Genisis2;3]. When Adam fell, God cursed the earth, and because of God’s curse, evil befell all mankind. The curse of God was paid for by Jesus Christ on the cross [Galatians 3:10-13].
Untill the earth is fully redeemed from the curse at the final comming of Christ, the curse is still in effect, and it’s influence is felt by all. [Romans 8:18-25]
The ignorance Of spiritual truth is because most “christians” have been blinded by religion. The most dangerous place for new believers is the “church” where false doctrine abounds.
Most have been sold a bill of goods that leaves the impression that some how satan is the worthy apponent of God. Satan is nothing more than the mid-manager of God’s wrath, and can do nothing outside the complete soveriegnty of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
We must come outside religious Jerusalem, and fellowship with the sufferings of Christ. If we choose to remain “under” a false gospel of religious perversion, [Galatians 1:6-7] we will be turned over to a religious devil by the Lord, and remain in a deaf blind spiritual sleep. [Romans 11:5-10]
Although I believe in GOD, I am catholic, i don’t pray for these women who kill their babies to be saved. To me they deserve everything bad that happens to them, I know that it’s not right for me to wish them bad but how can they kill their baby and then regret it. It’s as if I can go and kill my 2 toddlers and ask for forgiveness because i Know god is love and forgives everyone, i somehowe believe that what goes around comes around and if you did what you did it’s going to come back and get you somehow but it will. This lady had not one but three abortions, later her “not one” but “two”kids died. One drowned the other had a tumor. She was left suffering for the rest of her life because she cant have no more kids due to so many abortions.
Jeff,
Which god actually crated the universe in 7 days? The God in Bible, sovereign and almighty in whom I believe, created our universe in SIX days and on the seventh He rested from all his work. So if you thought you were talking about the same God then I suggest you try to find out what things are all about before you start debating on them. That would help you to stop getting labelled stupid.
Reading your thoughts I end up with the conclusion you must be nothing but undeveloped tissue as there seems to be no significant brain waves. Gladly, was I in America, I could use my choice and kill you. If I wasn’t christian.
Bless ya all!
Crystal,
I know that it’s easy to hate women who slaughter their babies, but do keep in mind that most of these women have not been educated properly about what abortion REALLY is.
I work with a chapter of the American Life League, and part of my job is to counsel women who are post-abortion. Most of them admit that they were never told what abortion was, they thought it just made the baby “go away”.
We must keep in mind that abortion hurts two people – the baby and the mother. Not a single woman I have ever met who had an abortion doesn’t regret it. I am angry at women who decide to get an abortion, but I feel sorry for the ones who have already done it, because they now suffer a pain that will stay with them for the rest of their lives.
Wow! You “true Christians” are such nice people. With all your insults and violence advocating, I don’t see how anyone anywhere could say something bad about you. I hope, one day, that I could stop being such an evil liberal, and be like you. I get so tired of caring about such silly things like: rascism and sexism in the workplace, our soldiers dying for a big lie, and making sure children get a good education so that they can grow to make the world a better place and fix problems of many different societies.
I’m ashamed that I don’t spend my time more wisely. I should pick up the nearest bible and start memorizing passages that I can cookie-cut and repeat, all in an effort to prove a point that the passage was never meant to be applied to (just like preachers in the 1950′s did to claim slavery was God’s gift to white folks). Or better yet! I could make posters and websites, then decorate them with bloody corpses of the very people I say I care about.
You kind of Christians are a joke. I recognize your right to freedom of opinion, but not without exercising my right to freedom of speech. People like you will disrespectfully use anyone’s unfortunate circumstances to further your Hitler-shared ambition of Christian supremacy.
If you really cared about these children’s lives and Christian supremacy wasn’t your motivation, you would gather together as the base of the Republican party and tell your congressmen and women to start working on ways to make the country better for these children to live in.
How about poverty? There’s over 3,000 verses in the bible about that. You could tell them to try and eliminate poverty by creating more well-paying jobs (that stay in THIS country) so that: 1) kids won’t have to go to bed hungry and 2) their parents can play an active role in their development instead of having to work every waking hour of the day while their kids turn to crime to make extra cash to pay the electric bill. All of you could be doing this kind of stuff right along with trying to end abortion. They certainly don’t contradict each other.
If the mere truth that these activities improve the quality of life in America isn’t enough for you to do what I’ve talked about, then look it at like this: You get to prove people like me wrong when we say you will never ask your elected officials to improve the quality of life in this country.
Amen to that, “Condemned to Hell”!!!! I agree with everything you say. All I want to add is that I am very “Pro-choice” but that doesn’t mean I am “Pro-abortion” or that I think every woman should have an abortion if she is carrying an unwanted child. I merely hope that she is given information about all options available to her and is given objective counseling and then does the right thing for herself. But I also do not want women to carry out an unwanted pregnancy knowing that she must keep the child because it is the only morally right thing to do, because I fear for the life of the child who as a fetus is already sustaining damage by being “unwanted”. (it is a proven fact that the unwanted and therefore either consciously or subconsciously “unloved” unborn are affected negatively by the feelings of the mother.) Every child should be welcomed into the world with love and an into an enviroment in which it can flourish and grow and be nurtured. Under any other circumstances (unless the mother has made the choice to offer her child up for adoption and has made peace with her choice and does not feel hatred towards her fetus) the child will suffer, and a whole cycle of suffering and pain will begin.
“Operation Rescue” should start rescuing the infants and children living as a result of being unwanted – the ones who are going hungry, the children who are being abused, the ones who are being molested, the ones who are being neglected, ALL of which are innocent victims!!!
christine and condemned to hell,
i can tell you both personally that operation rescue west DOES care about both the mothers and their babies,before and after birth.i am 29 weeks pregnant and i was in a very abusive relationship.orw personally paid for EVERYTHING to get me to a safe place and it did not cost me one cent.
i had an abortion when i was 7 months pregnant at the age of 16 that was performed by tiller and i have permanent cervical scarring that will cause me pain for the rest of my life.if i had known orw at that time, i would have been able to have my baby.abortion scars women both physically and emotionally.orw cares about women, not about taking their money to kill their babies like tiller does.
A girl who needed help:
Know that you and your baby are in my prayers. You are very brave for standing up for life, but God will reward you for protecting the life of your baby at any cost. You should spread your testimony with others who are in your situation.
Loving Catholic,
thank you so much for your prayers.i used to be the biggest tiller supporter ever until i realized what he truly is.orw and my very good friend with whom i am staying have helped me so much i don’t know if i can ever repay them.
i try to spread my experience wherever i can to let women know that they don’t need to go to tiller’s.i would really like women to know that at the end of his 4 day process, they must give “birth” to their dead baby.they will go through labor and delivery anyway, so why not wait a few extra weeks and give the child the greatest gift ever, life.
I find it interesting that Christians who care so much about the teachings of Jesus, fall short of understanding them.
Do me a favor. Please post the bible verses that condone harassment. The ones that justify turning neighbors against the people you disagree with. The ones that allow you to make God’s decisions for him. I would especially like to see the one that gives you the right to decide who should be allowed to go to church.
This is in response to a couple of comments. First, to Jeff – he asked if abortion is against God’s will why does it continue? He allows it to continue because He loved us so much we have a free will – to choose good or evil. He will always search for us but we must say yes. It is like the two thiefs on the cross with Jesus – the one on the left said if you are God save us and the one on the right said we deserve to be here He does not and Jesus responded – “this day you will be with me in paradise”. It’s about hope, faith and love.
Secondly, I work with many people who help women who are in a crisis pregnancies not only during the pregnancy but after as well. To be Pro-Life is to care about all life from natural conception to natural death and all the baby steps in between.
Thirdly, remember to be compassionate and charitable. Remember that we are all sinners and that we should desire God’s Mercy for everyone. Remember Jesus saying in the Bible “what is it to love those who love us.” We are called to love everyone and to pray for everyone’s eternal salvation. Quoting Mother Theresa, “If we really want to love we must learn how to forgive.”
I ask those who say they support abortion – support adoption. If a mother can not take care of her child than give the baby to someone who can. Children are a gift from God. Again, quoting Mother Theresa said, “You and I, we are the Church, no? We have to share with our people. Suffering today is because people are hoarding, not giving, not sharing. Jesus made it very clear. Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, you do it to me. Give a glass of water, you give it to me. Receive a little child, you receive me.”
Lastly, as a Catholic, I urge people to know the Church and her teachings. We could read the Bible, study the early Church and read the lives of the Saints and still not know everything. Keep growing in your Faith. This is a gift from Jesus Christ when He said to Peter (which means Rock) – “upon my Rock I build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” We are the Church and we are called to be loving, compassionate and charitable. To help all those in need both physically and spiritually. Be a light to those in darkness and share the joy of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
“For where your treasure is there will your heart be also” Luke 12:34
nd,
your statement was judgemental in and of itself.orw does not engage in harassment, they engage in exposing george tiller for what he is.they do not do it in an untrue or violent manner.all they are asking for is for him to take a good look in the mirror and repent all the pain & evil he’s put into this world.
abortion is the ultimate form of the subjugation of women to men.abortion allows men to treat women however they choose to and never be held accountable for it.the abortionist is the rapist/pedophile/irresponsible man’s best friend.
Crystal, just by your comments I think it safe to make the dedution that you have never made a mistake in your life… you are perfect, therefore you’ve never needed the feeling of remorse. You’ve never had to apologize to someone because you either indirectly or directly hurt their feelings. I find what you said pretty juvenile and unthoughtful. I dare you to attend a Rachel Vineyard retreat… it might open your eyes. Yes, women that have had an abortion will suffer, and believe me, they do. But that is NOT for YOU to judge… some have reconciled their grief and remorse just to function in life. They know they’ll have to face God.
for those of you that are pro-choice and believe that it’s not pro-abortion… ask yourself what you are choosing when it comes to pregnancy. By it’s very nature, pro-choice means abortive supportive, therefore you’re not pro-life. Don’t confuse yourself with petty word play.
Christians are, by our very nature, called to defend life. So we’ll do it. We are exposing the truth as to what abortion is and if you are shocked by pictures… good. I’d like to see more people shocked into reality as to what abortion is and then once they are over their shock, do something to help stop it.
I work in a pregnancy resource center. We love both the woman and the baby. As a Christian I can say that I am thankful that I serve a God who loves us & is a forgiving, yet just god. He is the only one we will have to answer to in the end. He is a very merciful, loving God who loves the sinner yet hates sin. The Bible tells us that God’s mercies are new every morning.
I know that the post-abortion clients I have worked with are only able to find peace after they ask God’s forgiveness and then forgive themselves.
As a mother & grandmother, I know I never felt that those unborn babies were anything less than a person. We recently welcomed identical twin boys into our family. Their mom had to be on bedrest for eight weeks before delivery, but it was a “sacrifice” she gladly made.
Condemned to Hell,
I apologize as much as I am able on behalf of those of us “true Christians” who have indeed harrassed rather than helped both with our arguments and with our demonstrations. And your point regarding poverty is well-taken. I myself have prayed for God’s mercy on the USA for not taking better care of its poor and aging. Yet I also pray for mercy on us for the fact that we brutally kill our unborn. I do not think we should focus on abortion and ignore the poor or vice versa.
As far as this being about Christian supremacy, I doubt that could be said for the majority of people represented here. Christ’s supremacy, perhaps. However, we’re really just concerned with protecting innocent lives.
I can see why the sensationalism of the “bloody corpses” bothers you but they were put up to get people’s attention in order to help the people we say we care about. While I am undecided about this method, I sympathize with the intent. I find it odd that you would equate it with not caring about these babies.
Jody, thank you for your compassionate input.
To Jesus Christ be all the glory!
My only comment to everyone is this:
“Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter. If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,” does not He who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not He who guards your life know it? Will He not repay each person according to what they have done? ” Proverbs 24:11-12
As far as I’m concerned, the Bible tells me (and all of you) everything I (we) need to know about life.
I am so thankful for pro life sites like this one. I tried to view the documents but couldnt. It makes me cry.. I wish abortion has never been legal to begin with.
“For before you were in the womb, I knew you” Jer 1:5
Dear Drianna.
You said , “That would help you to stop getting labelled stupid.”
Labelled is actualy spelled labeled.
Dear Andy ,
actualy is spelt Actually ,
and you would you the term “Spelt” not “Spelled”
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you = use in last post lmao …
Condemned to Hell,
I just wanted to say…I know how you feel. I was in your shoes about five years ago. I thought Christians were the most judgemental people on the planet. That is, until Jesus Christ revealed Himself to me. Christian people, just like everone else on the planet can be judgemental, sure. But that’s just it. We’re people. No, we shouldn’t judge, but hey, we’re not perfect. We serve a God who is and who loves us right where we are at. I assume you’ve had negative experiences with Christianity before as I had. But I dare you to do what I did and just ask God to make Himself real to you. What have you got to lose? Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s a reason you visited this website.
And to Crystal..the Bible also says in red letters about judging others. If you’ve never walked in someone elses shoes before, then who are you to judge?
For the record, I’ve had two abortions that I regret more than I can say. The only thing that gives me comfort is knowing that one day I will be reunited with my children in Heaven. I was not saved at the time and I did not know what abortion entailed. I am not excusing myself. We reap what we sow. However, I do know that God has forgiven me and seperated my sin as far as the east is from the west. Abortion is murder–bottom line, but God is merciful and has a master plan.
Lm even though youve aborted,turn it around…seems like your sorry….and let GOD now use you to be a voice against abortion.
Jeff on April 15, 2005, ” Either He (God) doesn’t have any
real power. He was able to create the universe in 7 days, but can’t protect one fetus?”
Answer to the above: God does not intervene to protect the unborn from murder so He has evidence of
selfish people murdering their babies and others excusing it. God is hiding so as to “get the goods” on the selfish. This life is a test, and selfish, dishonest
people are going to flunk. There is a Great Judgment.
Pro-Life, Yes, this is my legal name.
I am a candidate for US Senate-Idaho
First off, I must say that I myself think late term abortion is wrong, as well as most other forms…….but there are exceptions to my beliefs.
Like when there are just TWO cells or what have you. IMO, there is no way a few cells are going to be capable of having rational thoughts or being aware in the general sense. I’d guess that I believe a fetus is “human” when it A: Possesses BOTH a simple brain or brain cells, AND a heart/circulatory system of some kind., B. Is in the shape widely regarded as that resembling a human being., and C: Has a HEARTBEAT or PULSE, indicating SENTIENT(aware, intelligent) life.
And before you say I must not be a religious person, know this: I am a practicing Catholic, and love the trinity and various saints dearly……but that doesn’t mean I take everything in the bible literally & as Canon, or that I devote every living moment to my faith(I mean, even god wants us to have some free time to enjoy our lives, IMO.).
I also believe that Catholics & ALL religious need to understand the modern day and evolve in various ways to stay current with the present day, while staying morally and ethically sound as well……but i’ll save that for another reply somewhere else.
P.S. I also believe that the church and it’s followers shouldn’t be so against contraception……..as it helps prevent disease and unwanted pregnancy. Maybe this would help cut down the number of abortions.
I’ve had miscarriages, an abortion and gave up my first baby carried to term for adoption, and have 3 lovely children that I was allowed to actually bring home from the hospital, so I have been there, done that from all angles. Only someone who has gone through an abortion can imagine the pain it causes for a lifetime. Someone who has not had this experience is not necessarily “judging” others, it may just be that they have no resources in their mind to comprehend the circumstances. I myself cannot imagine a drug addict randomly killing someone for a few dollars drug money, but I am not “judging” them, I just have no thought processes to deal with such a situation. And I am very religious and know many very good people who also go to a church, they’re not ALL bad, any more than people who don’t go to church or worship in other ways are all bad.
Abortion is not empowering in any way, but the cruelest form of victimization, pretending that it’s for your freedom when it is just so a man has no accountable consequences of sex. I was lied to and used, led like a cow to slaughter, so the abortion “clinic” could sell my baby’s body parts for cash, and this was my “choice”?? There is no reason for abortion, except maybe for the life of the mother in extreme circumstances where she will die for certain and it is a “choice” of one life for the other, and only the family involved can make that “choice”. but “I am busy right now” hardly qualifies as the “life” of the mother. Hiding behind rape victims or “health care” does not cover up the one and only reason for abortion: PROFIT!! There was definitely no “caring” involved and certainly no “health”, when they thought I was taking too long they rushed me out to avoid any liability. No “health exam”, just be sure to pay cash please. It is a business like cleaning carpets.
We can’t have the law both ways. Someone who kills a pregnant woman (Lacie Peterson) can be prosecuted for double murder, yet the mother can murder her own child? The hospital has to find out first whether it was abortion or not before they have authority to try to save the child. Nonsense, it is the same child either way. Arguing endlessly about when life begins, is it 2 cells or 2000 cells or when it has arms or 16 years after birth, is like saying our sun is not a star because I want to hide underground and can’t see it. It’s there whether we see it or whatever we call it. A woman is never a “little bit pregnant”, she is either pregnant or not, whether 2 cells or 9 months full term, whether the baby is “planned” (few are) or a result of rape or “accident”, whether she is 12 or 49. Babies can’t survive after birth without someone to care for them, but that doesn’t make them not human. “Contraception” methods that end a pregnancy that has already begun have the same result as an abortion, only cheaper and faster with less trouble and no body parts for sale.
Abortion does not make the pregnancy not to have happened, it just ends it. If we burn down a building, we can’t say it was never there to start with. The pretense that abortion solves anything just adds more stress and covering up and lies to adjust our conscience to in an already tumultuous situation, delaying facing the truth until maybe years later, after endless guilt, shame and usually more bad life choices. Many women are sterile after abortion, killing the only child they will ever carry. I was one of the lucky ones and have been blessed with children after the ordeal. Some die during the abortion. which definitely interrupts their plans for college or work or whatever they thought they were too busy with to have a baby. The baby always dies in the abortion, except the few rare cases where he/she is saved, and grows up to be a member of society, not just a bunch of tissue. How nice to know your mother not only didn’t “plan” you, or want you, but tried to kill you, and failed.
“religious” or “free” or whatever, I just wish we could go back to each person being responsible for his or her own actions, and being responsible and caring for those people around us or involved with us, whatever stage of development or ages!! Modern day people have the same emotions and motivations as Biblical days, fear and profit, love and kindness, people don’t seem to change much whether they drive camels or cars. God in his infinite mercy has a plan for the innocent killed by murder or by earthquake, death is still death and part of the process of life. Achieving “life” in a lab dish may be exciting reverse engineering, but hardly qualifies as original authority. Jesus didn’t die on the cross because He was powerless or because God just couldn’t do anything about it, but because He “chose” to give His life, life for each one of us, even for those who would kill. Democrats are in a race to see who can be perceived to be more pro-abortion than the others, promoting partial birth abortion just because it has “abortion” in its name. Is it too bad their own mothers didn’t suck their brains out after their feet were outside the womb because it was her “choice”? God allows murderers to be among us for a reason, He sees the entire real “Big Picture”, but from our own small viewpoint it is sure hard to fathom!
We should all pray for the women who signed, or thought about signing, MS. Magazine’s List of Women Happy They Had Abortions” that they face reality before they die so they won’t want to hide when facing God. And for anyone who has had any part in any abortion, even once, that they do know what they have done and ask forgiveness. God is bigger than anything we can do and has a plan for each of us, however long it may take us to agree to it.
We worry about “offending” someone who has a different viewpoint than ours, and “freedom of speech” but who worries about the rights of the dead babies, “offended” they never get the “right” to live and maybe govern our country and speak freely, killed for a few dollars profit. Drug addicts who kill for money are prosecuted for murder by our laws if convicted, how is it that abortionists have the “freedom” to kill for money and are protected by the same laws?
I hope anyone “collaborating” in any way in abortion is brought to light in this 2008 election campaign, so we can see people for what they really are. It’s time America quit pretending and started owning up to what is really happening, who stands for what, and see if anyone really believes in our country, in actual freedom anymore, or just in who can make the most money and no one knows about it. Anything goes if you don’t get caught.
Although I am a Christian, people need to know that even many ATHEIST are also Pro-life as well. When a person actually decides to do a lot of research on the “subject”…they will find that abortion is wrong in all aspects. As I feel, this issue of abortion is completly against my faith, my beliefs and is written in the Bible as against God. I feel that it is also just common sense. A large percentage of abortions are done simply because the baby is unwanted at the time. The issue of people saying “Well, in circumstances of the mother’s life being in jeopardy it’s ok…” Here’s my question?
How does the actual method of killing the baby save the mother’s life? The answer is no! Please actually think about this. Regardless of the mother’s situation does the baby have to come out? The answer is yes. So if the life of the mother was truly in jeopardy, then why not at least give the baby a chance to live outside of the womb. A baby made headlines because she was not even close to being one pound…and she lived even though she was born extremly early. If the mother really needs some sort of medical help, the act of pulling out the baby, ramming scissors in his head and then sucking out his brain has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the mother’s life…..the only thing it does is guarantees the child is killed. The bottom line is abortion is wrong, Every life is important, and like 97% of all abortions are done simply because the child was an inconvenience. It is legal because the abortionists LOVE the extravagant lifestyles they have from all the money they is paid to them. The only way they do not feel the guilt and shame is because almost all of them are on either street drugs or pills to numb their minds. Pro-choicers are lied to and 94 percent of girls/women who have an abortion regret it. You can ask almost any one of them and they almost all have the same story. They were mis-lead and if they had known the truth, they would have NEVER allowed someone to rip their child from their life. I pray for the mothers who made the wrong choices. No matter what, people come from all walks of life, there are always going to be radical people who say crazy things and seems to have no common sense about important issues. That’s life. I know everyone in this world is not against abortion. But it does not matter…right is right and wrong is wrong. Abortion should be illegal in all aspects.
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Although I am a Christian, people need to know that even many ATHEIST are also Pro-life as well. When a person actually decides to do a lot of research on the “subject”…they will find that abortion is wrong in all aspects. As I feel, this issue of abortion is completly against my faith, my beliefs and is written in the Bible as against God. I feel that it is also just common sense. A large percentage of abortions are done simply because the baby is unwanted at the time. The issue of people saying “Well, in circumstances of the mother’s life being in jeopardy it’s ok…” Here’s my question?
How does the actual method of killing the baby save the mother’s life? The answer is no! Please actually think about this. Regardless of the mother’s situation does the baby have to come out? The answer is yes. So if the life of the mother was truly in jeopardy, then why not at least give the baby a chance to live outside of the womb. A baby made headlines because she was not even close to being one pound…and she lived even though she was born extremly early. If the mother really needs some sort of medical help, the act of pulling out the baby, ramming scissors in his head and then sucking out his brain has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the mother’s life…..the only thing it does is guarantees the child is killed. The bottom line is abortion is wrong, Every life is important, and like 97% of all abortions are done simply because the child was an inconvenience. It is legal because the abortionists LOVE the extravagant lifestyles they have from all the money they is paid to them. The only way they do not feel the guilt and shame is because almost all of them are on either street drugs or pills to numb their minds. Pro-choicers are lied to and 94 percent of girls/women who have an abortion regret it. You can ask almost any one of them and they almost all have the same story. They were mis-lead and if they had known the truth, they would have NEVER allowed someone to rip their child from their life. I pray for the mothers who made the wrong choices. No matter what, people come from all walks of life, there are always going to be radical people who say crazy things and seems to have no common sense about important issues. That’s life. I know everyone in this world is not against abortion. But it does not matter…right is right and wrong is wrong. Abortion should be illegal in all aspects.
I’ve had miscarriages, an abortion and gave up my first baby carried to term for adoption, and have 3 lovely children that I was allowed to actually bring home from the hospital, so I have been there, done that from all angles. Only someone who has gone through an abortion can imagine the pain it causes for a lifetime. Someone who has not had this experience is not necessarily “judging” others, it may just be that they have no resources in their mind to comprehend the circumstances. I myself cannot imagine a drug addict randomly killing someone for a few dollars drug money, but I am not “judging” them, I just have no thought processes to deal with such a situation. And I am very religious and know many very good people who also go to a church, they’re not ALL bad, any more than people who don’t go to church or worship in other ways are all bad.
Abortion is not empowering in any way, but the cruelest form of victimization, pretending that it’s for your freedom when it is just so a man has no accountable consequences of sex. I was lied to and used, led like a cow to slaughter, so the abortion “clinic” could sell my baby’s body parts for cash, and this was my “choice”?? There is no reason for abortion, except maybe for the life of the mother in extreme circumstances where she will die for certain and it is a “choice” of one life for the other, and only the family involved can make that “choice”. but “I am busy right now” hardly qualifies as the “life” of the mother. Hiding behind rape victims or “health care” does not cover up the one and only reason for abortion: PROFIT!! There was definitely no “caring” involved and certainly no “health”, when they thought I was taking too long they rushed me out to avoid any liability. No “health exam”, just be sure to pay cash please. It is a business like cleaning carpets.
We can’t have the law both ways. Someone who kills a pregnant woman (Lacie Peterson) can be prosecuted for double murder, yet the mother can murder her own child? The hospital has to find out first whether it was abortion or not before they have authority to try to save the child. Nonsense, it is the same child either way. Arguing endlessly about when life begins, is it 2 cells or 2000 cells or when it has arms or 16 years after birth, is like saying our sun is not a star because I want to hide underground and can’t see it. It’s there whether we see it or whatever we call it. A woman is never a “little bit pregnant”, she is either pregnant or not, whether 2 cells or 9 months full term, whether the baby is “planned” (few are) or a result of rape or “accident”, whether she is 12 or 49. Babies can’t survive after birth without someone to care for them, but that doesn’t make them not human. “Contraception” methods that end a pregnancy that has already begun have the same result as an abortion, only cheaper and faster with less trouble and no body parts for sale.
Abortion does not make the pregnancy not to have happened, it just ends it. If we burn down a building, we can’t say it was never there to start with. The pretense that abortion solves anything just adds more stress and covering up and lies to adjust our conscience to in an already tumultuous situation, delaying facing the truth until maybe years later, after endless guilt, shame and usually more bad life choices. Many women are sterile after abortion, killing the only child they will ever carry. I was one of the lucky ones and have been blessed with children after the ordeal. Some die during the abortion. which definitely interrupts their plans for college or work or whatever they thought they were too busy with to have a baby. The baby always dies in the abortion, except the few rare cases where he/she is saved, and grows up to be a member of society, not just a bunch of tissue. How nice to know your mother not only didn’t “plan” you, or want you, but tried to kill you, and failed.
“religious” or “free” or whatever, I just wish we could go back to each person being responsible for his or her own actions, and being responsible and caring for those people around us or involved with us, whatever stage of development or ages!! Modern day people have the same emotions and motivations as Biblical days, fear and profit, love and kindness, people don’t seem to change much whether they drive camels or cars. God in his infinite mercy has a plan for the innocent killed by murder or by earthquake, death is still death and part of the process of life. Achieving “life” in a lab dish may be exciting reverse engineering, but hardly qualifies as original authority. Jesus didn’t die on the cross because He was powerless or because God just couldn’t do anything about it, but because He “chose” to give His life, life for each one of us, even for those who would kill. Democrats are in a race to see who can be perceived to be more pro-abortion than the others, promoting partial birth abortion just because it has “abortion” in its name. Is it too bad their own mothers didn’t suck their brains out after their feet were outside the womb because it was her “choice”? God allows murderers to be among us for a reason, He sees the entire real “Big Picture”, but from our own small viewpoint it is sure hard to fathom!
We should all pray for the women who signed, or thought about signing, MS. Magazine’s List of Women Happy They Had Abortions” that they face reality before they die so they won’t want to hide when facing God. And for anyone who has had any part in any abortion, even once, that they do know what they have done and ask forgiveness. God is bigger than anything we can do and has a plan for each of us, however long it may take us to agree to it.
We worry about “offending” someone who has a different viewpoint than ours, and “freedom of speech” but who worries about the rights of the dead babies, “offended” they never get the “right” to live and maybe govern our country and speak freely, killed for a few dollars profit. Drug addicts who kill for money are prosecuted for murder by our laws if convicted, how is it that abortionists have the “freedom” to kill for money and are protected by the same laws?
I hope anyone “collaborating” in any way in abortion is brought to light in this 2008 election campaign, so we can see people for what they really are. It’s time America quit pretending and started owning up to what is really happening, who stands for what, and see if anyone really believes in our country, in actual freedom anymore, or just in who can make the most money and no one knows about it. Anything goes if you don’t get caught.
As a HUMAN I hope more than anything that we can all look past our personal differences and work together as people to make the country and the world a better place for those children who DO grow up in it.
When a woman makes a decision to have an abortion, it is not a trivial matter. Any inference to the contrary is ignorant and negates the unbelievable difficult choice she is making.
I agree with the earlier posting that teaching sex education and birth control will help reduce the need for abortions. There will always be a need, and as Christian, Muslims, Atheists, Hindus, PEOPLE, we need to treat women with equality and respect.
I’ll bet when they are not facing poverty, illness, violence and repression every single day in this country and around the world, the need for reactive medical procedures, rather than proactive, will diminish.
Be better to each other people.