[This is a list of companies that do business with George R. Tiller and his late-term abortion mill, Women’s Health Care Services, updated in April, 2006.
Since we posted the Collaborator List in July of 2004, fifteen companies — a full 30% -- have stopped doing business with Tiller and his abortion mill. Public pressure works! -OR Staff]
We present this list of the top abortion collaborators that are associated in some way with the infamous late-term abortionist George R. Tiller of Wichita, Kansas, and ask for prayer for each of them, that God would grant them repentance for their complicity, whether great or small, in the murder of innocent children.
It is important to note that this is not a boycott list. It is something more. Certainly, some will be compelled by conscience to refrain from doing business with abortion collaborators, and that is acceptable and even welcome. However, others may be moved to contact the businesses on the list and witness of Christ to them. That, of course, is also the duty of Christians. Others may want to attempt to educate them on the evils of abortion and the sanctity of human life. There would certainly be benefit in that endeavor since undoubtedly some on the list have not fully considered the ramifications of their business dealings on the pre-born.
However one is touched by this information, we pray that it will prick the conscience of our society and be used to hasten the day when pre-born children are no longer treated as a commodity that has the potential for profit, but are instead valued and protected.
“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.”
-Ephesians 5:11
Collaborators are listed in alphabetical order.
Businesses that have direct
business dealings with
Women’s Health Care Services
1. REMOVED!
2. Best Cabs, Inc.
Provides transportation services for Tiller patients
2552 N. Market, Wichita, KS 67219
316-838-2233
www.bestcabsinc.com
Owner: George Armbrust
Manager: Tim Armbrust (George’s son) Says he’s “pro-life”
3. REMOVED!
4. College Hill United Methodist
Van driven by Rev. Bill Crowell seen at Tiller’s Clinic
2930 East First Street, Wichita KS 67214
316-683-4643
316-683-3454 (fax)
Anne Rosebrock, Senior Minister: 683-4643 x204
anne4u@collegehillumc.org
5. Diamond Security, L.C.
Provides aggressive security guards at Tiller’s clinic
220 W. Douglas, Ste. 150, Wichita, KS 67201
316-263-3883
6. Docuforce
Sell and service copiers and, supply copy services for legal documents.
8343 East 32nd Street, Wichita, KS 67226
316-636-5400
7. Hart Pharmacy
Tiller’s preferred pharmacy; routinely fill his prescriptions
6217 E. 13th St. N., Wichita, KS 67208-2697
316-683-5621
8. REMOVED!
9. Holland Paving
Repaired WHCS parking lot and has indicated that they will continue doing business with Tiller.
1255 S. Tyler Rd., Wichita, KS 67209
316-722-7114 Fax: 316-722-9115
Toll Free: 800-536-6143
www.hollandpaving.net
Email: hollandpaving@aol.com
Owner: George Holland
9. REMOVED!
10. REMOVED!
11. REMOVED!
12. Lechner’s Landscape and Lawn Service LLC
Provides landscaping services at Tiller’s mill
2016 W. Harry Ct., Wichita, KS 67213-3200
316-265-3912
13. REMOVED!
14. Physicians & Surgeons Exchange
Tiller’s answering service
1443 George Washington Dr., Wichita, KS 67211
316-262-6262 or 316-262-8282
15. Quest Diagnostics Incorporated
Lab that performs blood testing and other lab work for sepcimens deliverd by American Cab Co. from Tiller’s mill.
3100 E. Central Ave. #A
Wichita, KS 67214
(316) 685-5185
16. REMOVED!
17. REMOVED!
18. Stericycle, Inc.
Provides infection control and medical waste management services
28161 North Keith Drive, Lake Forest, Illinois 60045
Toll-Free: 800-643-0240
Fax: 847-367-9493
http://www.stericycle.com/
19. Stith Bob Heating and Cooling
Repairs air conditioner at Tiller’s clinic
1411 S Handley St., Wichita, KS 67213-4318
316-262-1802
20. Sunflower Travel
Provides discount rates to Tiller’s patients
1223 N Rock Road, Bldg. G, Ste 200,
Wichita, KS 67206
Phone: 316-634-1700, Toll Free: 800-445-0563
Fax: 316-634-1717
Bobbi Hansen – CTC President bhansen@sunflowertravel.com.
21. REMOVED!
22. University of Kansas
Tiller on faculty
Lawrence, KS 66045
785-864-2700
http://www.ukans.edu/
Chancellor Robert Hemenway: beret@ku.edu
23. University of Kansas Medical School Wichita
Tiller on faculty
1010 N. Kansas, Wichita, KS 67214
316-293-2635
http://wichita.kumc.edu/
kusmw@kumc.edu
S. Edwards Dismuke, MD, MSPH, Dean
edismuke@kumc.edu
24. Wesley Medical Center
Allows Tiller hospital privileges; Tiller on staff
550 North Hillside Avenue, Wichita, KS 67214-4976
316-688-2000
www.wesleymc.com
Wesley MC Medical Staff President Roland Enoch
Responsible for all doctors at Wesley Medical Center
Home Phone: 316-218-9800
Office: Wichita Family Medical Specialists
Office Phone: 316-858-5800
Coordinator: Marty
25. Wichita Fence Co, Inc.
Repaired fence at Tiller’s clinic
4901 N. Broadway, Wichita, KS 67219
316-838-6194
26. REMOVED!
27. REMOVED!
Businesses seen taking Tiller’s blood-money
(Shops that Tiller patronizes )
1. Elite Cleaners
Dry cleans the Tiller family’s clothing
6161 E. 13th St. N., Wichita, KS 67208
316-651-5997
2. The First Place
One of Tiller’s favorite home accessory stores
2929 N. Rock Rd., Wichita, KS 67226
316-685-3241
3. Landscapes Plus
Provides landscaping services at Tiller’s residence
316-943-3535
4. Panera’s
Tiller stops by here for coffee and bakery items
1605 N. Rock Rd., Wichita, KS 67206
316-636-5446
5. Starbucks Coffee
Tiller’s favorite coffee shop
8008 E. Central Ave., Wichita, KS 67206
316-315-0662
Builders who have worked on remodeling
Women’s Health Care Services
1. Caster Excavating
6609 N. Woodlawn, Wichita, KS 67220
316-744-1206 or 316-838-6215
2. Classic Lawn Care
5340 N. Legion, Wichita, KS 67204
316-838-0082
3. REMOVED!
4. REMOVED!
5. Health Strategies at Wesley Medical Center
551 North Hillside, Wichita, KS 67214
316-651-8000
6. Eaton Plumbing
Eaton: 316-636-1994
7. Neal’s Foundation Inc.
5515 E. 61 St. North, Wichita, KS 67220
316-744-0064
8. REMOVED!
9. Pinston House Moving
2924 S. Hoover, Wichita, KS 67215
316-943-4105
10. Pioneer Materials, Inc.
1916 S. Kessler, Wichita, KS 67213
9304 E. 39th North, Wichita, KS 67226
316-943-2281; 316-636-4343
11. Ritchie Paving, Inc.
2872 N. Ridge Rd., Wichita, KS
316-722-6521
12. Simplex Time Recorder Co.
625 N. Carriage Pkwy., Wichita, KS 67208
316-686-6363
13. Specialty Excavating Inc.
5515 E. 61 North, Wichita, KS 67220
316-744-2822
14. Terracon Consultants; Terracon Environmental Inc.
2111 W. Harry, Wichita, KS 67213
316-262-0171
Political Entities That Have Accepted Tiller’s Blood Money
1. The Bluestem Fund/Kathleen Sebelius
238 SW Gage Blvd., #1007
Topeka, KS 66606
Chairperson: Kathleen Sebelius
Home phone: 785-233-6535
Treasurer: Stephen Martino
Home Phone: 785-235-3915
2. Democratic National Committee
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC 20003
Main Phone Number: 202-863-8000
3. Kansans for Democratic Leadership
P.O. Box 1914 Topeka, KS 66601
785-234-0425
Chairperson: Tom Sawyer
Treasurer: Chris Gallaway
4. Kansas Democratic State Committee
PO Box 1914, Topeka, KS 66601
785-234-0425
785-234-8420 (fax)
5. Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius
Office of the Governor
Capitol, 300 SW 10th Ave., Ste. 212S
Topeka, KS 66612-1590
Voice: 1-877-KSWORKS (1-877-579-6757)
Local: 785-296-3232
For the Hearing Impaired: 1-800-766-3777
6. ProKanDo*
(Tiller’s personal Political Action Committee)
P.O. Box 8249
Wichita, Kansas 67208
316-691-2002; toll free at 866-327-6663
Chairperson: Julie Burkhart
Home Phone: 316-942-1778
*There are hundreds of contributors to ProKanDo. Each contributer is considered an abortion collaborator. Click here to view ProKanDo’s contribution reports.
Bonus:
Charities That Have Accepted
Tiller’s Blood Money
The Exploration Place
A children’s interactive museum
300 N. McLean Blvd. Wichita, KS 67203
316-263-3373
Reformation Lutheran Church
In addition to accepting his donations, Tiller is a member at RLC where he receives spiritual covering and acceptance. He regularly received Holy Communion in violation of Scriptural mandates concerning barring the wicked from the Lord’s Table.
7601 East 14th St., Wichita, KS 67206
316-634-0586; www.reformation-lutheran.org
YMCA – Central Branch
Tiller has been honored for his donations with a commemorative brick inscribed with his name.
402 N. Market, Wichita, KS 67202
316-264-9374; Fax: 316-264-0757
_________________________________________________
Pledge to End Abortion Collaboration
I promise that _______________________________________
(Business Name)
will not do business with or support in any way Abortionist George Tiller,
Women’s Health Care Services, or any other abortion provider.
____________________________________________________________
Signature Date
To be removed from the Abortion Collaborators List
please fill out and sign this form and return it to:
Operation Rescue
P.O. Box 782888
Wichita, KS 67278
OR Fax your form to 316-634-1045







Thanks for producing the list, which I have read in PDF. I am a Christian who is very opposed to abortion. However, I am not sure what to do with the list, and am interested in what others comment. Some businesses like the La Quinta, for example, seem to be quite involved with Tiller, as they are giving discounts specifically to his patients. This is an establishment I may write to and voice my concerns. But what about the Starbucks and the cleaners, who is probably treating him like any other customer?
Thanks in advance, Steve
I really appreciate yhe work you are doing.
May God bless your and your efforts.
Lawrence Perkins
ChurchFamily.com
I have to agree with steve, What do starbucks and panara have to do with Tiller. Everybody goes there. If he wants to buy a cup of coffee, should they vow not to serve him? Most of these corporations, especially the big ones (ie, Laquinta Inns) see money and they dont care where it comes from. If they see an opportunity to make money from something they will do it. There are several other hotels close by that do the same thing. I know work experience. You might be able to stop special rates for these women, but they will still come. A hotel cannot ask what your buisness is here and they certainly dont research if you are telling the truth, they just take the money and smile.
and again with wesley, if tiller choose to send women to via christi they would have to take them in. The hospitals must take anyone that shows up on the doorstep no matter what. I dont know what else to say, going up against corporate america is very difficult. I hope eveyone will just be peaceful in their demonstrations. God be with all of you
What about Bed, Bath and Beyond? I’ve avoided going there since I heard it was a big contributor to Tiller’s PAC. I really like the store, and if it’s not on the list, I’ll patronize it again. Let me know.
Baby killers like Tiller should be ostracized by a moral society. Their blood money should be unacceptable and their patronage refused.
The life of a baby killer should be one of utter hell in trying to find a place to lay his head or to sit down to rest. There should be no such place found.
It’s remarkable that there are some who claim to oppose abortion yet cannot see how in accepting Tiller’s blood money that they offer aid and comfort to the enemy.
Businesses and individuals who aid and comfort the enemy are traitors. Those who support these traitors are also traitors. Any involvement in baby killing should come with a great and unacceptable cost.
You just make it acceptable to kill children when you treat a baby killer like Tiller “like any other customer”
Robert Ferguson
POBOX 2054
Whittier, Ca 90610
FrolicingFrog@cs.com
Hallelujia!!! It’s about time that someone had the cajones to “out” these collaboraters. AMEN!!!!
“The preborn deserve the same protection as the born” – Paul Hill Sept 2, 2003
Why get so uptight at all these businesses, after all, they’re “just doing their jobs!”
Abortion tolerance is a sin against God on a par with the murder these obominable people commit every day. Every person who “just does his job” by making services of any kind available to those who kill is tacitly agreeing that they will turn a blind eye to the bloodshed. Would a Starbuck’s employee feel bad if he had refused coffee to Jeffrey Dahmer? No, he’d be selling his story as a man who did something active, no matter that the gesture was small, to separate himself from a serial killer.
By meeting the so-called “needs” of Tiller and his facility, co-conspirators are working hand in glove with the killer, sustaining him, his property, his family and co-killers (staff and moms) so they are not unnecessarily discomfitted by the blood they spill.
In a sane society this man–a serial killer in his own right–would be locked behind bars and awaiting a well deserved execution date. He wouldn’t be able to access Starbucks, his favorite bakery, lawn care, a hardware store, or any of these others services. He is a menace to unborn children and gets no sympathy for any discomfort he may feel over having his bloodied merchants exposed right along with him.
Someone asked why Bed Bath and Beyond is not on the list. That is because the BB&B president is a contributer to ProKanDo, Tiller’s political action committee, which is on the list. There were 292 listed contributers to ProKanDo in the last election cycle. Those 292 names, including BB&B, will be posted later in an additional list. The degree of our society’s complicity in Tiller’s abortion business alone is staggering and a bit overwhelming. We thought it best to start with 50 who directly do business with Tiller, then expand into his vast political connections from there at a later time.
I know I have patronized some of these stores. After seeing the list I refuse to walk into those stores. But, I want to do more. Could we write to all those places and let them know they are helping the innocent die? If so count me in. We can not just sit around anymore. The innocent souls are crying out to God for vengence. Some day God will answer. May God bless you all.
Perhaps I won’t be able to write a letter that will make a difference to the businesses on this list because of their allegiance to Tiller, but I will write, nonetheless. Who knows, maybe the sheer volume of letters will finally tip the scales and life will win! I’ll pray to that end.
Sincerely for life,
M.R.
Thank you for letting me know which businesses are enabling Tiller to stay in the baby killing industry. Without the support of these businesses, Tiller would have a much more difficult time killing the babies. Therefore, I will contact these businesses and let them know how they can help end his bloodshed by refusing to cooperate with him. Remember: the babies that will be born instead of aborted can make a big difference in this uncaring world.
Well, I have some concerns about your list. But first, let me say that I am in agreement with the work you do. I am grateful for the commitment of the people in your organization.
I feel the list is more useful in showing charities, political groups, and medical concerns that interact with Dr. Tiller.
However, I can hardly fault a business for providing normal, incidental commerce with the Dr., his family, or various employees. I can hardly expect that 1) a restaurant, for example, would in anyway know who these people are, and
2) in a number of cases, for example, if providers of food such as restaurants and grocery stores denied services and products to these people, I can hardly view starvation as productive.
WE must do what is right. And WE must spread/educate people of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But we must not pretend to be able to do the work of God. By that I mean, it is the Holy Spirit that will convict and change these people, not our preventing people from obtaining food and shelter and clothing.
Truly, I feel the most you and I can do is demonstrate that a human exists from the point of conception. To demonostrate that there is no scientific, or philosophic, or religious argument that logically holds otherwise. Showing that, in the case of both euthanasia and abortion, in the words of the great English and Christian poet, John Donne “..no Man is an Island…any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind….therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee”
Love to all,
Steve (of Orlando, but raised in Wichita)
“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil.” 1Thess 5:21-22
Alright ORW!
This is fantastic because even myself in CA can participate in contacting these people.
These clinics need the heat on at all times.Even where I am working I have to continually make sure the workers are not giving out Planned Parenthood info or phone numbers. Keep up the good work, may the Lord bless you all.
Jodi Dewhirst LM
Thank you for this list. It is a step in ‘outing’ those who allow the murderers to continue their wretched business. God bless you. God bless the babies.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
“You’ve got to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything.”
Which ever version you prefer, the message is the same: evil will, therefore good must.
Thank you very much for doing this project! It is time more people in our community learn who does business with the Tiller abortuary. Most people here are against abortion, so why help an abortionist in any way, especially one as widely known as this one?
You say the list is not published to start a boycott, but I for one will not spend money at businesses passing on some of it to Tiller.
God bless you!
Thank you for letting us in the pro-choice community know which businesses to patronize and thank. You’ve done us a great service. I don’t shop much as I am not materialistic, but when I do shop I will take this list with me.
lux
i think you mean “poor choice”.
and as for you not being materialistic….please.
in deciding to have a child torn limb from limb and flushed down the sewer, so you may pursue your own hedonistic desires,
placing your selfish needs above those of a helpless child, you are being TOTALLY materialistic.
in order to be “poor choice”, one must practice intellectual dishonesty on a grand scale.
You are superstitious, crazy people.
jb
you know, that’s pretty accurate. poor choicers are like people who continue to believe the world is flat…..in spite of massive proof to the contrary…..
show them a sonogram, and they still won’t accept the humanity of the unborn. show them photos or films of abortions, and they still deny that it is taking a life. give them testimonies of thousands upon thousands of women who have aborted and regret it – physically, morally, spiritually, emotionally – and they still deny it.
try to give women the facts about the dangers of abortion and they fight it tooth and nail. try to offer women life affirming choices and real, practical help, and they gnash their teeth and wail.
yes, jb, you are right.
to be poor choice is to be, in many ways, superstitious and crazy (not to mention morally bankrupt.)
I define superstitious as believing in supernatural deities of any kind. Religion defines nothing but how much to put in the collection plate and how much a witch doctor can control your lives. I define crazy as people who attack or kill doctors and stalk the doctors and people associated with the clinic to gather information to harm them , exemplefied by this web page.
jb
your definition is strictly your own….
only a fool would say there is no God….
and as far as “crazy” goes, i think lying to women in order to sell them abortions, withholding important information from them in order to make more money by selling more abortions, then performing procedures which poison, dismember, barbarically KILL innocent unborn children, then taking the remains of that child and throwing it in a dumpster or putting it down a garbage disposal…….hummmm….i suppose you think that is perfectly sane.
by the way, knowing the business connections of people who are engaged in the above activities can hardly be called crazy….the public has a right to know who is supporting the slaughter of the innocent. and as far as people who have done any sort of violence towards abortionists, if you had done your homework you would know that for 20 years (1973-1993) there were no incidents of any kind. what happened in 1992-3? well, the clinton administration, in bed with the abortion industry, completely shut down all peaceful dissent, and at the same time, began exporting abortion all around the world and promoting it aggressively here at home.
i don’t condone violence towards abortionists, and neither does any other prolife group or leader. those actions were roundly condemned if you had been paying attention. also, if you had done your homework, you would know that there have been approximately seven abortionists and clinic personnel killed or injured over a 31 year period, and of course that is wrong. but the abortion industry makes money on violence, having been responsible for over 40 million deaths since 1973, not to mention all the lives that have been shattered, women rendered sterile by abortion, women who have breast cancer due to abortion, women who died from LEGAL abortion, etc……
furthermore, some of the actions taken against abortionists were later found to have been committed by men whose wives/girlfriends had aborted their baby, and those men, who were not emotionally stable to begin with, decided to take matters into their own hands and seek vengeance on those who had killed their child. of course that is very sad and is not to be condoned by any sane rational person. additionally, all causes,
whether civil rights, anti-slavery, what have you – attract a small element of people who may or may not be stable, and who act independantly of the actual movement. that doesn’t condemn the whole movement, unless of course you’re a rabid proabortionist who wants to broadbrush all prolifers.
finally, many of the clinic bombings were later found to have been perpetrated by the abortionists themselves. why? because when protests are taking place each day, driving away your business, think of the p.r. victory that can be gained by bombing your own clinic, blaming it on prolifers, and then collecting insurance money so you can relocate somewhere else.
jb, you have fallen into the trap of believing the outrageous lies and distortions of the the abortion industry. i suggest you investigate this matter a little more thoroughly before weighing in with opinions that lack support.
also, i would urge you to take a look around you, and ask yourself – how did all this beauty and complexity get here? the evidence of God is all around you, and can’t be denied, except by
choosing to avoid the reality of His existence, and intentionally ignoring His handiwork in all things.
merle
just above where we post our comments, it clearly states:
“Comments are welcome. Please keep your comments to the topic or story at hand.”
i think you’re on the wrong site….
merle
the Bible, the revealed, inerrant Word of God, is anything but useless.
unless of course, you’re a godless pagan, unwilling to do any intelligent investigation of the facts.
i did reference “God and His handiwork”, but that was in response to a previous post wherein the writer brought up the subject, attempting
(in vain) to link any and all opposition to baby killing as being something inherently religious.
the prolife case can be made without ever referencing religion, or it can be made by referencing God’s Word. either way, the prolife case is factual, documented, and unarguable.
but you, merle, asked a silly, irrelevant question about the supposed age of the earth, which has nothing to do with anything even remotely connected to baby killing, the deluded people who support it, or those of us who do not.
therefore, either weigh in with an opinion on the subject, or go find another site.
I think posting information about the business dealings of abortionist is not focusing on the greater picture. Pro-life advocates continually verbalize their opposition to abortion but offer no other solution to the horrific problems we have in the U.S. with unwanted children. There are thousands of children living in institutional settings because they have been “thrown away” both physically and mentally by their families and society. Yet, I don’t see pro-life advocates rushing to the doors of these institutions to take-in, nurture, and care for these children who have been “given a chance at life”. If you truly want to make a change–adopt children, become a foster parent, but don’t sit around complaining that these children deserve life, only to be placed in institutions where they will be taken care of by custodians who provide only the basic needs of survival but offer no love or sense of family. When the institutions are empty and there are no more children waiting to be adopted or taken in and loved by a family–then and only then will I agree that abortion is not a solution. And if you are “true christians” why not encourage your churches to create a “one church-one child” program. Bring a child in to your community. “it takes a village” to love and nurture a child. Make positive changes and stop this nonsense, it is not pro-active, and it doesn’t do the children who are already living any good.
Yeah DB! And we should pump gas into the orphanages now to put them out of their misery – because we all know they will never have a life anyway. Just like these hopeless souls:
Alexander the Great – King of Macedonia, 356-323 B.C.
Andy Berlin – entrepreneur: chairman of Berlin Cameron & Partners
Anthony Williams – politician
Aristotle – philosopher
Art Linkletter – comedian
Bo Diddley – musician, performer
Brent Jasmer – actor
Buffy Sainte-Marie – musician, actress
Carl Theodor Dreyer – Danish film director
Charles Dickens – writer
Charlotte Anne Lopez – Miss Teen USA
Christina Crawford – author
Clarissa Pinkola Estes – author
Crazy Horse – Lakota war chief
Dan O’Brien – decathlete
Daunte Culpepper – football player
Dave Thomas – entrepreneur: founder of Wendy’s
Debbie Harry – singer
Edgar Allen Poe – poet, writer
Edward Albee – playwright
Eleanor Roosevelt – First Lady
Eric Dickerson – athlete
Faith Daniels – news anchor
Faith Hill – country singer
Freddie Bartholomew – actor
George Washington Carver – inventor
Greg Louganis – athlete
Halle Berry – actress
Ingrid Bergman – actress
James McArthur – actor
James Michener – author
Jean Jacques Rousseau – philosopher
Jesse Jackson – minister
Jesus – adopted by Joseph the carpenter (Bible)
Jett Williams – country singer and author
Jim Palmer – athlete
John J. Audubon – naturalist
John Hancock – politician
John Lennon – musician
Langston Hughes – poet and writer
Larry Ellison – entrepreneur: chief executive of Oracle
Leo Tolstoy – writer
Les Brown – motivational speaker
Lynnette Cole – Miss USA 2000
Malcolm X – civil rights leader
Mark Acre – athlete
Matthew Laborteaux – actor
Melissa Gilbert – actress
Michael Reagan – dancer
Moses – Biblical leader
Nancy Reagan – First Lady
Nat King Cole – singer
Nelson Mandela – politician
Patrick Laborteaux – actor
Peter and Kitty Carruthers – figure skaters
President Gerald Ford – politician
President William Clinton – politician
Priscilla Presley – actress
Ray Liotta – actor
Reno – performance artist, comedian
Rep. Jim Lightfoot – politician
Richard Burton – actor
Sarah McLachlan – singer
Scott Hamilton – figure skater
Sen. Paull H. Shin – politician
Sen. Robert Byrd – politician
Shari Belafonte-Harper – actress
Steve Jobs – entrepreneur: co-founder of Apple computer
Surya Bonaly – figure skater
Tim Green – football player/commentator
Tim McGraw – singer
Tom Monaghan – entrepreneur
Tommy Davidson – comedian
Victoria Rowell – actress
Wilson Riles – educator
source: celebrities.adoption.com
Is is safe to ask, DB, if you posted a note to any adoption sites, asking why they not get involved in stopping the killing of children?
Or perhaps you posted to a por-choice (sic) site somewhere and admonished them for not supporting Susan Smith and others like her who “understand” a woman’s right to kill her young children she deems inconvenient.
Seriously, DB. Please rethink your position. You may want to start by asking when you think life begins. For me, it’s conception. Just like when two parts hydrogen bond with one part oxygen you have water (H2O) right then and there, not a month, or nine months later.
Thanks for letting me post, and i hope you can forgive the sarcasm. It’s frustrating when you feel so passionately and see it as a life and death issue. I pray you’ll understand that one day. Again, thanks.
merle
to you i say, find another site.
this site is about baby killing, and what thoughtful intelligent people can do and are doing to oppose it and provide loving alternatives.
there are sites which discuss the age of the earth….
i don’t need to “dance” around anything – i just consider you a bore.
mb
still waiting for you to say something that makes sense….
this site is about baby killing and what we, as prolifers, are doing to bring it to an end.
it’s patently absurd of you to use the lame, tired rhetoric about kids in foster care, etc…to justify your prodeath views. killing a child is wrong, before birth or after. if you can’t start with that basic moral understanding, then you, mb, are missing the “greater picture”.
prolifers DO propose solutions – you are apparently just too thick above the neckline to do your homework and find that out. the solutions we propose, however, do not involve tearing babies limb from limb and flushing them down the sewer, then patting ourselves on the back, saying “well, at least that kid didn’t have to grow up in foster care…”. what twisted reasoning you employ, mb. it’s better to kill an innocent child, in your view, than it is to let it live. no one has it easy in this world – and the kind of life a child will have is not able to be determined with ANY certainty, based on a few factors that are selectively considered during the brief period before that child is born. it is the heighth of arrogance that you or anyone would say that based on what seems to be the case (during the child’s gestational period) that that child would be better off dead. ron’s partial list of famous people conceived and later born under traumatic circumstances doesn’t even merit a reply from you, when it totally nukes your insupportable views. i take that back, you did reply, calling it “frivolous”.
and at the same time, you actually considered your post to be “legitimate and well thought out”.
are you joking with us, mb? you have yet to make any legimate points and little you have said is well thought out. and when we respond with devastating facts and truths that simply overwhelm you, you say we are “frivolous”.
the bottom line is, if you read ron’s post (obviously you did not – somebody is not paying any attention here!) – that was a SMALL list of people you would target for abortion, based on your silly reasoning about “wantedness”.
and you start out with what YOU consider to be the “greater picture”. let’s see, mb, four thousand babies are cut up in pieces and flushed down sewers everyday, and the “greater picture” for you is that children are in foster care. one reason why there is a lack of responsibility in america is BECAUSE of legalized abortion. legalized abortion makes it very easy to weasel out of responsibility, and that spills over into other areas of society. but i don’t want to give you a headache by logically explaining cause and effect.
suffice it to say – you support killing because you think it lessens certain other societal pressures. my guess is you have not bothered to consider the multitude of additional, far more serious, pressures and horrific side effects that abortion causes in society.
another thing – don’t condescend to tell people what ‘true’ Christianity is….
furthermore, you proabortionists have had legal abortion for going on 32 years….and you told us in 1973 that abortion would eliminate all the “unwanted” children living in the very conditions you describe…. has it worked, mb?
hmmmm….
in closing, let me say that prolifers are always positive. we are optimists. the pessimists are the poor choicers, who see practically every pregnancy as a calamity, whose best solution is a dead baby. if you doubt that prolifers are providing the very kind of things that you have pompously challenged us to provide (we’re already doing that, mb, you just don’t know because you hang around the poorchoicers, and believe whatever they tell you) – if you doubt that we already do those encouraging and positive things to help women and their babies before, during and after a pregnancy, then click on the link above that says “pregnant – need help?”.
mb
it is true that someone named “db” made the reference to “true” Christianity. but of all the points i made, that was the best you could do to point out a simple inadvertant error like that?
to be honest, if i knew someone was in any way involved in the child killing business, i would not do business with that person or that business. but i have extensive experience in a number of fields, i just happen to enjoy painting and am making a fair living doing it for the time being.
in any case, you ARE overwhelmed by the all the facts presented – name one valid point you have made so far, anything at all that even remotely comes close to refuting any of the facts i’ve presented, let alone those made by others on other links, and the facts contained on this site……
your arrogance and pomposity is breathtaking. you imply that because i happen to earn my living in a certain occupation at the present time that nothing i say could “overwhelm” you. the implication is that you are somehow ‘above’ learning from others – that is typical of the left and of proabortionists in particular. just remember that the word “ignorance” comes from the word “ignore”.
and as long as you ignore the facts, mb, then it’s abundantly clear who is able to overwhelm who.
having confused “db” with “mb”, let me address these remarks to the former individual.
this site is about baby killing and what we, as prolifers, are doing to bring it to an end.
it’s patently absurd of you to use the lame, tired rhetoric about kids in foster care, etc…to justify your prodeath views. killing a child is wrong, before birth or after. if you can’t start with that basic moral understanding, then you, db, are missing the “greater picture”.
prolifers DO propose solutions – you are apparently just too thick above the neckline to do your homework and find that out. the solutions we propose, however, do not involve tearing babies limb from limb and flushing them down the sewer, then patting ourselves on the back, saying “well, at least that kid didn’t have to grow up in foster care…”. what twisted reasoning you employ, db. it’s better to kill an innocent child, in your view, than it is to let it live. no one has it easy in this world – and the kind of life a child will have is not able to be determined with ANY certainty, based on a few factors that are selectively considered during the brief period before that child is born. it is the heighth of arrogance that you or anyone would say that based on what seems to be the case (during the child’s gestational period) that that child would be better off dead. ron’s partial list of famous people conceived and later born under traumatic circumstances doesn’t even merit a reply from you, when it totally nukes your insupportable views. i take that back, you did reply, calling it “frivolous”.
and at the same time, you actually considered your post to be “legitimate and well thought out”.
are you joking with us, db? you have yet to make any legimate points and little you have said is well thought out. and when we respond with devastating facts and truths that simply overwhelm you, you say we are “frivolous”.
the bottom line is, if you read ron’s post,
that was a SMALL list of people you would target for abortion, based on your silly reasoning about “wantedness”.
and you start out with what YOU consider to be the “greater picture”. let’s see, db, four thousand babies are cut up in pieces and flushed down sewers everyday, and the “greater picture” for you is that children are in foster care. one reason why there is a lack of responsibility in america is BECAUSE of legalized abortion. legalized abortion makes it very easy to weasel out of responsibility, and that spills over into other areas of society. but i don’t want to give you a headache by logically explaining cause and effect.
suffice it to say – you support killing because you think it lessens certain other societal pressures. my guess is you have not bothered to consider the multitude of additional, far more serious, pressures and horrific side effects that abortion causes in society.
another thing – don’t condescend to tell people what ‘true’ Christianity is….
furthermore, you proabortionists have had legal abortion for going on 32 years….and you told us in 1973 that abortion would eliminate all the “unwanted” children living in the very conditions you describe…. has it worked, db?
hmmmm….
in closing, let me say that prolifers are always positive. we are optimists. the pessimists are the poor choicers, who see practically every pregnancy as a calamity, whose best solution is a dead baby. if you doubt that prolifers are providing the very kind of things that you have pompously challenged us to provide (we’re already doing that, db, you just don’t know because you hang around the poorchoicers, and believe whatever they tell you) – if you doubt that we already do those encouraging and positive things to help women and their babies before, during and after a pregnancy, then click on the link above that says “pregnant – need help?”.
How do murderers like tiller stay in business? he must have body guards around him constantly because I’m sure there are many who would be tempted to send him to his destiny. I cringe to think what would happen if I met him on the street. I really find it difficult to pray for this dreadful piece of slime ( neighbor ) but my Father says I must.Help me to realize that God says ” To me belongeth vengence…. ” Deut.33:35. Maybe there is salvation. Only God knows.
Thank you for this website and the list.
BB
Barry
I agree with your heart-felt comment. I find such prayer difficult as well. It helps me to remember that we have a God who says we are to pray without ceasing, and that our prayers do change things. If Tiller would come to repentence, and trust in Christ as Savior, what a revival that might spark. God has raised up people like the staff of Choices Medical Clinic, right next door to Tiller, who offer life honoring alternatives to abortion, and this is something worthy of praise as well.
Regards, Steven
I am out just showing the sign,”Catholics Against Kerry.com”,and hopefully they will be informed at how the evil one,Satan works, Satan holds up the gold bowl of,”I, only ME, and everything forME” I really wonder if people would pay any attention to a sign saying,”I had an abortion, and it was MURDER” hm , how about a new sign added on each year, then would people get the message? I am waiting for the day when thousands of women stand up for themselves and invite others to join the call, it could be the movement that works, but you see , there is alot of shame involved, haven’t you ever wondered dwhy women that have had abortions are silent????
linda
good news – there is such an organization. actually several, but i urge you to go to http://www.helpafterabortion.com – these ladies have decided to be “silent no more”
ironically, they hold signs that say “i regret my abortion”.
at a john kerry rally awhile back, a woman holding one of the signs had it ripped from her and torn to pieces.
guess the side that’s for “choice” only wants a woman to make one, and then, if she regrets it, to just shut up and go away.
I just cannot fathom how any woman could abuse her God given privilege to be a mother, to commit murder to her unborn child. God gave women a precious gift and the love that I feel for my son and felt from the moment I found out that I was pregnant is a love that has no comparison. And to use abortion as a form of contraception. If you want to condone Pro-Choice, CHOOSE BEFORE you get pregnant in the first place. That is the best argument for pro choice. A woman has a right to get pregnant or not. There are too many ways to keep from getting pregnant to argue that abortion should be legal. Not sleeping around and if you do, use birth control. And if you do and get pregnant, be responsible for your actions and raise the baby to be the best person you can possibly teach it to be, or find someone that will love it to give it to before it is born. Abortion is a weak way to get out of a person’s responsibilities for the actions they CHOSE to take and mainstream society is helping young women in general accept that it is a LEGAL right for them. I know there will be arguments that some are pregnant because of reasons of rape or insest. I am not addressing those issues in this post. I am referring to the millions of babies that have been killed because someone CHOSE to NOT PLAN ahead when she slept with someone. She just enjoyed the experience and disposed of the result.
I haven’t read all of these but I am printing them out.
Thanks for letting us know what stores to aroved.
keep up the good work. my parents where charter members of Tiller Chruch, I am so glad they have both passed away., you see I was adopted.they couldn’t have any childern. but they adopted two girls, and I was one of them. they loved life.
And befor they died they went to a bettter chruch. bye for now Love Mrs. Carol Becker.
George It’s Not Too Late To Turn Back!
Thanks for the list. Some of us are going to invest time and postage to write those companies and THANK THEM for not bowing down to your organization’s harassment. The methods you employ make you all out to be stalkers. Why not invest the time, money, and effort taking care of children who are already here whether it’s in the US or abroad instead of employing such tactics and getting in personal affairs of people you have no business getting into.
Do you really think your Lord and Savior would seriously condone this???
Jewels, I have already written the addresses on all the envelopes. :) All 51 of them.
Thank you for the list. I am going to personally write thank you letters to these people for supporting choice.
Forget Dr. Tiller. You should all be asking Jesus to save your souls from the evils you are committing. Stalking is a crime. What you are doing is wrong. You are all going to hell.
Now that you’ve made your choice, can the rest of the world PLEASE make theirs?
“Keep your hands off my body.”
Reading all these posts, pro-life and pro-abortion, it is interesting to note the innuendos
and comments made by those who have conjured up the use of symantics with that word “choice” which was never ever meant to be used to rip away so horribly the little life that has resulted from union of sperm and egg. They either exhort a seemingly “Higher than thou” and contained hatred attitude toward their “Life opponents” or they come off with low-grade profanity as illustrated by their blasting away at Christianity or Christians in general as if “if it weren’t for you Christians, I’d be able to ‘have my fun’ without having any doubts or guilts about what I want to do.”
You guys seem to be edging a bit too close to terrorism. Perhaps if you don’t like abortion you should attack the root cause of it: unwanted pregnancy.
Hi guys,
The abortion issue does inflame a bit, eh? Like many other pro-lifers, I’ve been very frustrated going over the same ground over and over.
There IS another way of seeing things. Decades ago a New Zealand gynocologist named: Patrick Dunn did a concerted effort to determine a pregnant girl’s mood. He found that there were 2 periods of overt depression DURING pregnancy and one immediately following. Over 80% of all abortions came at the bottom of the first depression.
The Second depression occurs just before delivery and the Third immediately afterwards. [Seeing the lines, you'd think that the Second and Third were the same one.] Yep, the Third is the famous ‘post-partem depression’.
This gets wilder yet because these periods exactly reflect the periods when the developing baby uses extra zinc. Are Mom’s and their babies fighting over a too low quantity of zinc?
Still more fun: there is a 4th period of heavy zinc use … puberty. So almost every teen seeking an end to her pregnancy is in a depression. [It goes with this territory.]
This connection between abortion-depression and zinc status isn’t used much because no one knew (or suspected) its existence. So I now say: Treat the depression , and don’t kill the kid!
Oh yeah, a doctor Jan de Vries in Scotland treats his patients who have multiple sclerosis and depression with zinc supplementation. Simple, eh?
Just perhaps, ladies who still suffer severe depression years after their abortion may still suffer from a zinc deficiency induced depression because killing their baby won’t make low-zinc go away. Zinc is absolutely necessary to heal.
Healing is just not for ‘them’, but we too need to heal – don’t we all!
JM
We CHOSE to ADOPT two young children at ages 2 & 3-1/2 twenty-five years ago from foster-cared PRO-LIFE homes. We have personally supported through food, housing, child care, etc., AND long lasting friendship/fellowship with numerous young mothers and families who once walked the dark path to an abortion mill. Yes, many call us CRAZYS. I must admit we are FOOLS FOR JESUS and SIMPLY LOVE HIS CREATION !!! And, upon our soon approaching years of earily “Retirement” we are preparing for full time mission work with a Christian medical ministry in foreign lands. And, I consider ourselves the NORMAL PRO-LIFERS in the crowd of people we are blessed to serve with! You folks continue your postings without me — I won’t continue with this thread after tonight — for tomorrow we start our third year of homeschooling two of our precious grandchildren being trained up to STAND UP for LIFE in the public marketplace of their worlds. Sign me in LOVE with THE KING ! Enjoy and Rejoice with me — Philippians 2:1-18. GOD IS FAITHFUL !
u guys are a assholes!
has it been noted that this group has been labeled cultic?
ref: http://www.rickross.com/faq.html
(4th bullet down)
Are groups like the so-called “militias,” “patriots,” and “Freemen” somewhat “cultic”?
Yes. Many anti-government extremists and hate groups such as the Klan, Skinheads, some radical anti-abortion groups, the “Christian Identity” movement and often violent gangs, share many of the same characteristics as destructive cults; such as a “we they” mentality, black and white thinking and unreasonable fears about the outside world. Radical anti-government extremists have often isolated themselves in compounds or remote settings not unlike the Waco Davidians or Jim Jones’ People’s Temple.
It is important to note that historically there have also been many radical left-wing political groups such as the SLA that abducted Patty Hearst, or the National Labor Federation founded by Gino Perente, which exhibit these same cultic tendencies.
More recently the right-wing followers of Lyndon LaRouche appear to have obsessive, cult-like devotion to their leader and some have referred to this group as a “political cult”.
PS
amber – that is unnecessary..
chris hallagan
actually, you are incorrect. the root cause, as you put it, of abortion is NOT unwanted pregnancy….that is convoluted reasoning. the root cause(s) of abortion include selfishness and ignorance on the side of those who would seek to procure one, and greed coupled with a total disregard for the dignity of fellow members of the human family on the side of those who provide this so-called ’service’.
the term ‘unwanted’ is misleading – it is far more accurate to say ‘untimely’ or ‘unexpected’. women (and men) who are faced with parenthood at untimely periods of their lives are emotionally distraut and usually not thinking clearly – that is, until they are able to receive proper counseling from a pregnancy care center, a pastor, or someone who truly cares for them and will help them to consider all of the pros and cons of every option. if that same woman (or couple) goes to the local killing center or planned parenthood, they will be sold an abortion as a ‘quick fix’, using precisely the logic that you have used in calling that unexpected pregnancy something dehumanizing like ‘unwanted’.
as far as your reference to terrorism….please. to expose the works of darkness and remind people of the ugly truth about ‘choice’ takes courage and is absolutely necessary in a society that ‘doesn’t want to know’ about what goes on in abortion killing centers every day.
witness what just happened in russia – now THAT is terrorism. those animals killed innocent children in cold blood.
isn’t it interesting that that’s exactly what abortionists do every day….. ?
gabby
nice try, but your reasoning is a pathetic attempt to smear a legitimate group with the ‘wacko’ label.
you needn’t go back to patty hearst to find totally kooky, weirdo, anti-social, hate-filled leftist groups….they were on parade recently, trying to protest the republican convention. and you’ll find them comitting acts of terrorism in the name of animal rights, environmentalism, etc….on a regular basis. there are countless examples of these bitter, angry, spite-filled people who make up fringe, cult-like groups, and they are primarily, even almost exclusively, on the left. in fact, i would go so far as to say most of the modern democrat party is made up of these types of people, representing extremely narrow special interests which only about 1 or 2% of americans concur with. the prolife element of society, much to your chagrin, is totally mainstream, and has far more support than the proaborton minority.
and so, please don’t make a fool of yourself by trying to equate what ORW does with anything cultic. what they do is legitimately protest the killing of the smallest and weakest members of the human family, and expose the evil that is abortion. members of ORW can be contacted directly, they send out press releases, give interviews, and welcome new members. they don’t hide their activities, but are open about them.
Jaime & ilk,
If you want to thank those who really support choice, don’t write to any friend/supporter of Tiller! Murder, the flagship “service” of his sorry excuse for a medical clinic, is the ultimate Violent Imposition of one person’s will on another, ipso facto violating real “choice”.
Not only has abortion been proven to be against the will/desire of its first victim, the unborn,
(for proof of this, you can watch the film, “The Silent Scream” online), but even you may have noticed that living children exercise their volitional faculties far more freely & frequently than dead ones.
Furthermore, despite the efforts of the Supreme Court to decriminalize induced abortion as an OPTION for people (it takes two, you know)faced with unplanned (by them)pregnancies, it is, strictly speaking, virtually NEVER “a woman’s choice”.
Anyone who has been active in this battle for longer than a few hours has encountered the bitter irony of an abortion-bound mother spouting the “my body, my choice” mantra as she goes into the killing chamber; then, in a truly pitiful effort to console & justify herself, saying, “I had to do it” to herself and anyone else who happens to be within earshot afterwards.
The fact that induced abortion is virtually always a reaction to an UNPLANNED pregnancy should be your first clue on this: if it was really a free choice, she would have planned to get pregnant so she could get an abortion.
Then, too, induced abortion has proven time and again to have been the “‘choice’ to end all choices” for the mothers who are FATALLY damaged by these so-called “safe procedures”. (See lifedynamics.com, and read the Blackmun Wall in its entirety before you even think about trying to refute this one).
A friend of mine once told a man passing by a deathchamber she was picketing about a woman who had died from injuries inflicted during an abortion there. The man just shrugged and said, “It was her choice”. Excuse me? No it wasn’t, not unless they told her before the abortion that that would probably happen to her.
This makes as much sense as a person choosing to put on a parachute, then dying of injuries received upon hitting the ground because the parachute malfunctioned. If death was that person’s choice, why would (s)he put on the parachute in the first place???!!! Women don’t get abortions because they are dangerous; they get them because they have been brainwashed by a very materialistic profiteer into viewing their innocent baby girl or boy as more of a threat than a maniacal serial killer brandishing a knife or suction rod 29 times more powerful than a home vacuum cleaner with an eye on their most delicate, private physical sanctum.
I’m really very sorry that you have bought into this lie. Please understand that decriminalizing induced abortion IS NOT, HAS NEVER BEEN, AND WILL NEVER BE about giving women “freedom to choose”. That term was very coldly and calculatingly coined by two very wicked men who knew that they had to come up with something clever to make a medical holocaust less threatening and revulsive, even attractive & acceptable,to the American public upon whom they wished to foist their eugenicist hoax. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, IS NOW, AND WILL ALWAYS BE ABOUT A GOVERNMENT’S RIGHT TO KILL, VIA “DOCTORS”.
Roe v. Wade has not and never will altered the truth of the statement, “A woman does not choose an abortion like she chooses an ice cream cone or a Porsche, but rather like an animal caught in a trap “chooses” to gnaw off it’s hing leg.” An act of desperation is a forced choice is not a real choice, and you know it.
Have you never seen the lie of just the fact that this was never put before the American public on a ballot?
And have you never noticed how viciously informed consent laws are fought by so-called “champions of choice” whenever a legislative representative summons the temerity to sponsor and introduce them?
To ORW: While God makes the sun and rain to fall on the just an unjust alike, I think this list is a good idea, to at least provoke us all to consider the consequences of our actions, loyalties, and associations. Biblically, Tiller should have been under the jail years ago; maybe there’s hope for him yet. Time will tell.
Thanks, J.M., for the tip about zinc. I recently had the joyous privilege of doing some prolife street ministry with a couple who offer little stuffed bears with “hope notes” tied to their ribbons to abortion-bound moms. I think zinc tablets can be got in rolls like lifesavers; added to the bears or other small gifts, they might double as lifesavers, in more ways than one…we all know that abortion isn’t the only way depression kills.
L’Chaim all,
lifelynx
Merle
If you’re still around this website, please go visit http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-121.htm
for very capable assistance with your original query re: starlight and the age of the universe.
Our guess is that you have other questions beside that one for which you’ll find answers on that site as well…assuming, for no particular reason, that it’s answers you want…
Cheers,
Gael McNutt
this list is the way to go. those who chose to kill children for a living and those who provide
them with support services of any type deserve to be exposed. the rest of us need to avoid doing any business with them and tell them why!
Good afternoon!
Speaking of boycotts, go to
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40487 and read this article on the latest boycott against Proctor & Gamble.
One particularly ironic facet of this is that, in the article, P&G is quoted as saying that it “will not tolerate discrimination in any form, against anyone, for any reason.”
Oh, come now, don’t be so modest! We all know that the “Gamble” half of the P&G empire/fortune is, originally, Clarence Gamble — yes, none other than Margaret Sanger’s infamous collaborator on “The Negro Project”,and recipient of her oft-quoted letter about using Black ministers to win the confidence of their parishioners, and quelling any suspicions that Birth Control/Sterilization might be calculated to incrementally annihilate the black population, don’t we? Well, readers of this thread do now!
(Dare we say, “Dirt can’t hide from intensified tide” ??!!)
Anyway, P&G is now, not surprisingly, big supporters of same-sex “marriage”, having generously donated some $10,000 to overturning a Marriage Protection Act. The reason this is not surprising is that sodomite marriage is a eugenicist/population control freak like Gamble’s dream come true. It isn’t, of course, that these people particularly give a rip about sodomite’s happiness; they don’t. It’s just that they prefer that sort of sexual perversion because it’s useful to them, in that
a.) Active homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit by sexual predation.
b.) Active homosexual activity has been proven to shorten the average lifespan (at least among men) by some 30 years.
Both these are obviously useful to those who want to wipe out humanity (i.e. reduce the population) but also, last BUT NOT least, with sexuality thus destructively directed, these people are not likely (unless delivered as per I Cor. 6:9-11) to form real marriages with all those tedious “natural affections” (read, stronger loyalties than to the state: Many of Hitler’s brownshirts were sodomites) that go with them…the better to kidnap the children, my dears…
LIME 5
one question for everybody? Who are you that you can play god and tell some one else what to do with there own life.
Yeah! Good question Roger! Who do these pro-abortion people think they are playing God telling little children they have no right to live, just because they haven’t exited the womb.
Hea Ron one question for you if you are severly against abortion how many kids have you adopted or are helping to pay for? how many times have you been in big brothers & sisters to help these kids that you are trying to save. if you are so against this go and adopt the baby you are trying to save or teach people to be responable for there actions not others.
Roger. This question gets asked a lot. Incidentally, I have 3 children. We are considering adoption when our children get older and I was a big brother for years. I hope you will prayerfully do likewise, if you are able.
But your challenge misses the real point. Statistically you could die in a car wreck on your way to work. Should we have killed you in the womb to prevent that? Of course not. No one knows what your life will be like for certain and so we shouldn’t take your life for that reason.
Or from the other angle, would you say unless you adopt a child you have no right to be a life guard at the beach. Who are you to save someone’s child, if you haven’t adopted a child. Drowning is just natural selection, right? (sarcasm police now pulling in my driveway)
If you will be honest, Roger, you will probably agree with me that most folks only want abortion to get themselves out of what they deem to be an embarrassing situation.
Roger,
The word indicating plural posession is spelt “their”; the word “there” refers to location.
P. McNutt
Hey pat, sorry about the mistake i stand corrected. Ron i will agree with you on one thing alot of poeple use this to get out of something embarrassing, but i still think that if that is their( is this right pat) choice, they have to live with their choice and if thats what they want thats ok with me.
Glad we can agree on something, Roger. ;)
Seems that the main point of our difference is that I see the baby as a life. Well, I am sure you do too (at some point). When is that point for you Roger? How old does a pre-born child have to be before you think it’s worth defending? Or does his age even matter?
Thanks for taking the time to read my post.
Roger,
People is spelt people, not poeple!
One really cannot proofread one’s writings enough, especially if typed!
As to your remark, “I still think it’s their choice”…it’s interesting that you use the plural to refer to the decision to kill a baby.
It is certainly NOT the baby’s choice. (For evidence of this, you can view the film, “The Silent Scream” online at silentscream.org.)
It is often NOT the mother’s choice. (For a more in-depth look at this, scroll up to a rather lengthy post addressed to Jaime & ilk, posted by
lifelynx, and read it.)
While some men do exploit and then abandon their pregnant partners, it is still,in many cases, NOT the father’s choice.
So of this immediate triptych, at least two are probably not in favor of abortion; definitely the one most strongly impacted by it, the child.
So who, really, is “they”? Try the rich, the profiteers who work in the deathcamps, the politicians and eugenist pseudo-scientists who back them, corporations who fund them…and an apathetic, hypocritical society who tolerates the slaughter. But it is, strictly speaking, very rarely the “choice” of those most directly, and destructively, impacted by it.
As your spelling is a light thing compared with your spelling, I hope you’ll be at least as open, and eager, reexmining & correcting your ideology as your spelling!
To that end, here’s a little exercise you might find helpful!
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If you think that was amazing, read the following words very carefully (right to the end), and you will see something incredible: God cmomnads all men evrewyhere to repent, buecsae he has appoitned a day in whcih He will jugde the wrold in rightesnouess. Maybe you don’t see your need to repent. Then answer these three questions with an honest heart: Have you ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen something? Jesus said, “Whoever looks upon a woman and lusts after her has committed adultery already with her in his heart.” Have you ever done that? Will you be innocent or guilty on Judgment Day? If you are found to be guilty (and we are all guilty), according to the Bible you will end up in Hell. It’s not God’s will that you go there. He provided a way for you to be forgiven. He so loves you that He sent His Son to take your punishment: “God demonstrated His love toward us, in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Then Jesus rose from the dead and defeated death. If you will repent (turn away from sin) and trust in Him, God will forgive you and grant you everlasting life. Isn’t that amazing? Pray something like this now: “Dear God, I want to turn away from all of my sins. This day I put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Please forgive me, change my heart, and grant me your gift of everlasting life. Amen.” Then read the Bible daily and obey what you read (see John 14:21).
Another tip that I often use is to key your document in a word processing program, since these generally have built-in spell checkers, then post.
(This is NOT infallible…
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And half bin sense grayed three
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Proofreading is better!
All the best,
Pat
Roger & everybody else;
P.S. re: the above: for more information about Eugenics, the common motivating force behind both Hitler’s Holocaust in Eastern Europe and the now world-wide abortion holocaust, see eugenics-watch.com.
Another EXCELLENT online read on that topic is “Eugenics and Other Evils” by G.K. Chesterton.
Enjoy!!!!!
P.McNutt
steve
the truth often is an antagonizing factor with people who prefer a lie.
go ahead and be offended by the list – but know that a truly moral response is to be offended by the slaughter of these innocent children, and then get motivated and do something about it.
if i were you, i’d consider opposing the evil itself, rather than those who simply point out the perpetrators of it.
I love you guys. I pray for you everyday.
Each and everyone of you are on fire with the
love of the Lord. Keep up this work. It is the most important battle for the soul of man since
the beginning of time. I am proud to say I know all of you. Keep doing and saying what you are
saying. Repitition is the father of memory. Maybe in time this hard hearted society of ours will be touched by the Grace of God and soften. It’s hard to believe what is happening in front of our very eyes and still so many are silent. A great time of apostacy. A great loss of faith. So many walking wounded.
In the end I wish I could join all of you in your efforts in Wichita Kansas and around the country. It would be my pleasure to hop aboard one of your Truth Trucks and confront the masses. Or gather information on the collaborators, providers and profiteers of abortion with you, most admirable of my brothers and sisters in Christ. But I have lots of work to do here in the tri-state area of Washington DC.to save babies and we are taking your lead. Our Comment Line is up and running and soon our “Pro-Choice Doctors” website will be out there for all to see pictures and malpractice information on our most notorious of baby killers. We are holding our “Retire Notorious Abortionist Earl McLeod” Picket for the eighth month in pricey, exclusive Bannockburn Estates in Bethesda Maryland. Mailings abound thanks to the ever charitable ORW staff. All things work to the good of God. Thanks for the inspiration, the direction, the support and all you hard wonderful work for the babies and their mothers. The most “Unprotected” of all.
Missy Smith
WAKE UP- President and Founder
Women Against the Killing and Exploitation
of Unprotected Persons
3700 Massachusetts Ave. NW #511
Washington DC
20016
Just a note to Ron (July 20)RE his list of famous adopted people. Michael Reagan is a radio talk show host, not a dancer. The dancer is his brother Ron Reagan, the liberal, pro-embryonic-stem-cell-research Ron Reagan. Mike was adopted, Ron was not.
SINCE THIS IS A PROLIFE FORUM WHY WOULD BABY KILLERS POST THEIR COMMENTS HERE?AS FAR AS KILLING AND BOMBING CLINICS NOT ALL PRO LIFERS HAVE DONE THIS SINCE I AM AGAINST KILLING BABIES OR MOTHERS. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON COULD REALLY JUSTIFY ABORTION. IF YOU DID’NT WANT A BABY CLOSE YOUR LEGS. AS FAR AS A CRIME THE BABY SHOULD NOT PAY FOR THE PARENTS DEED. THOUGH BEING REALISTIC ABORTION IS MOSTLY FROM UNWANTED PRENANCIES NOT CRIMES. I WILL NOT HELP ANY STORE THAT PROFITS FROM ABORTION.I CAN UNDERSTAND IF THEY DID NOT KNOW THE PERSON SUCH AS THE STARBUCK’S BUT THEN EDUCATE THEM AND IF THEY STILL DO THAT’S ANOTHER ISSUE.
Please do something to end the NEED for abortion! It’s just common sense that if you don’t need an abortion, you won’t get one! I really don’t think the vast majority of women who have abortions do so because they hate children and want to kill them (many go on to voluntarily become mothers-DUH!). Women won’t need abortion if you would please help stop rape, fund research into better birth control, provide birth control to poor people, make high quality pre-natal care free to all women, make men stop beating/abusing women, pass laws to make maternity leave a PAID leave, agree to higher taxes to pay for more, better, and subsidized daycare and education, provide equal pay for women so they can support the new baby, support better pay for men so they can support their wives and children, pass laws to make all men financially responsible for the children they create, provide sex education so people don’t get pregnant in the first place–in short, do anything you can that will make it easier for any women to raise a child. As the war on drugs and alcohol has shown us, when there is a demand, someone will always fulfill the need. I’m just a pragmatist!! klb
klb
you call yourself a pragmatist, but what you really are is a full-fledged pedal to the medal liberal, and your views are based on incredible misinformation.
no one “needs” abortion, klb. there is only scenario where you could argue that abortion was “needed” and that is where a woman’s life is at stake. but in that scenario, the best course of action is not to kill the baby, but rather, to prematurely birth the baby and try to save them both. so your whole premise is false.
as far as those other pie in the sky scenarios you present – please…… the fact is that men and women who approach sex in a responsible manner
know that pregnancy is a distinct possibility. and that is when they make their choice. most of the things you claim would help are simply designed to help people avoid responsibility. avoiding responsibility, as a policy, will only ensure more irresponsibility.
i will take a minute to point out some of the emptiness of your reasoning. for one thing, a pregnant woman is already a mother. having an abortion simply makes her the mother of a dead baby.
moving on, how do you “help stop rape”? that is such nonsense. there are laws against it, and the penalties are severe. what more can a society do? bill clinton was accused of rape, and the radical feminist groups came to the defense of – not the woman, but clinton!!! and that is because clinton is proabortion, and that is the key issue for radical feminists. so the groups you liberals have formed to supposedly help women are really only about promoting the most radical views, and not about real practical help. speaking of which, prolifers provide real, practical help without a dime of government money through pregnancy help centers, and they outnumber abortion mills three to one.
i could nuke all of your sophistry, but the dumbest comment you make (and this is really saying something) is that we need higher taxes. what a dumb thing to say. higher taxes means less money in the pocket of americans who are trying to raise their kids and put food on the table. lower taxes and less government programs (abysmal failures for the most part) is the way to go. as far as making men responsible for the children they “create”, wow, that is amazing, considering the fact that proabortionists have fought intensely in courts to complete remove men from the abortion decision…..
both men AND women need to be required to take responsibility for the children they create, instead of subsidizing irresponsible behavior.
but that won’t happen with abortion legal up until birth, like it has been for 31 years. prolifers do make it easier for a woman to raise a child, by providing support, encouragement, material assistance, etc… when the proabortionists offer only a dead baby.
klb,
Trusting in artificial birth control to solve the problem of the induced abortion holocaust is like expecting to put out a forest fire by dousing it with gasoline.
The fact that birth control substances, devices & procedures have been glamourized (the better to sell them to the targeted group, my dear…) may mask, but cannot alter, what they are in reality: weapons of genocide. The phrase, “Planned Parenthood” sounds so responsible, so benign, until you grasp the fact that the planners, and the parents, are two different sets of people; the former group seeking to control, and curtail, the reproduction of the latter, out of bigotry.
I don’t think the poor want birth control (especially in the form of child-killing); i think that they would much prefer being empowered out of poverty; but I am certain that some very rich (the Heinz catsup empire comes to mind here…)want birth control/abortion “for” the poor, lest their empowerment make them more equal to the rich…
Planned Parenthood’s slogan, “every child a wanted child” is especially hypocritical when you consider the vicious anti-child propaganda (you know, the sort of speech deliberately calculated to make members of the targeted pariah group not even tolerated,let alone wanted) with which we have been bombarded by the population control freaks for about as long as i can remember. But this propaganda is enforced with their advocacy of “birth control.” The abortifacient properties of most birth control substances & devices themselves aside, they are much more effective as foreplay for induced abortion than as a protection from it.
I met a woman several years ago who once ran several killing chambers, prior to reversing her own position on abortion and becoming a very outspoken advocate for life. She shared with me the role of birth control pills, esp., in the marketing of induced abortion. Many women who had just had abortions in her “clinics” found the procedures such that they did not want to go through anything like that again, and expressed desires to remain celibate until they were married and ready to have children to avoid the loss, degradation, pain & trauma of abortion.
Now this is not a bad idea — in fact, it’s one of the fences of protection of human well-being intended by God’s commandments re: sexuality & reproduction; but it’s terrible for business if you make a living killing unwanted children. What to do? Make sure that the woman does not leave the killing center without birth control pills. This will ensure two things: that she will remain sexually active, and that any children conceived will be unwanted, and treated accordingly.
I think it was Mahatma Gandhi who very perceptively remarked, just after a visit to India by the infamous grande dame of birth control, Margaret Sanger, that “the only form of birth control worthy of humanity is self-control.”
But St. Paul advocated self-control long before Gandhi lived…listing it as one of the fruits of the Spirit of the One who knows us all better, and loves us all more, than anyone else there is.
Little wonder…
what crap is this?
If you don’t want a baby close your legs
ever hear of sex for pleasure?
I am personally going to shop at these places as much as possible
& in future keep your god out of debates.
NOT EVERYONE IS CHRISTIAN!!!
get it yet?
It’s easy to be Pro-poor-choice when you’re not the one “chosen”…isn’t it?
I think people are misunderstanding the position of those of us who are against this list. Nobody objects to Operation Rescue’s objection to abortion. It is clearly O.R.’s right to object to, and to peacefully assemble in protest of abortion.
What some of us object to is honest hard working people being punished for a crime they are not guilty of. An underling to a physician, or a guy who runs a cab company is not deserving of punishment. If someone were to begin a campaign against individuals in Operation Rescue I WOULD object to that. If someone or some group sat outside of Troy Newman’s house with “truth trucks” and harassed him day and night I would object to that also.
I do not think that it is immoral to say that we should treat others the way we would have others treat us.
Steve wrote:
“I do not think that it is immoral to say that we should treat others the way we would have others treat us.”
It’s a shame, Steve, that your thinking doesn’t continue on to the preborn. The truth tucks and their message wouldn’t be needed if you and those like you would treat babies with the same “do unto others” philosophy.
A little side note: That great concept of do unto others is from Jesus Christ in Matt 7:12. Jesus went on to explain that this summed up all that the law and the prophets were teaching. How you can follow it, and not see how “you shall not murder” is a part of that is beyond my understanding.
To Ron I would say that I agree with Jesus’s advice in Matthew. I also feel that people should not be set upon like some of these people have. This is not a violation of the ‘do unto others’ philosophy. If anything it’s an affirmation of that philosophy. I will treat others with respect no matter how odious I may find them.
Operation Rescue has a right to what it does, and while it has obeyed the letter of the law it has most certainly violated its spirit in many cases.
Moving this discussion to the forum.
It’s under the title: Do unto others.
Jerry,
In a July 17 2004 response to a poor choicer, you said:
“…finally, many of the clinic bombings were later found to have been perpetrated by the abortionists themselves…”
Where can I find some independent verification of this? (I want it for the next time I hear some babykiller refer to pro-Lifers as “terrorists.”)
Thank you!
Karen B.
karenbelovich2@hotmail.com
what the list does is shine light on blood money. If we call ourselves Christians, we are required to take action or we can make excuses about our cowardice by cloaking it in loving terms, but we cannot say we did not know. Thank you for the opportunity to confront the evil of child murder. May God bless our efforts
I think that the employees at Starbucks and Panera may enjoy the opportunity to spit in his food.
Although this list IS interesting, I think you are going out of your way. After researching alot of these places, they seem to be the small buisnesses that are just trying to survive. If anyone knows anything about buisness, then they know that the small guy can’t survive without the big guy’s help. OF COURSE local carpet cleaners will jump at this job – they need the money and he is willing to pay. Instead of posting these, why don’t you offer the companies twice the ammount he pays them so that they don’t have to service him anymore? You aren’t thinking proactively, but retroactively, which the Lord, Our God, frowns upon.
I totally agree with what you are doing. I don’t understand what Principessa means when she says: ‘You aren’t thinking proactively, but retroactively, which the Lord, Our God, frowns upon’. To me, this is remarkably naive. The companies involved do NOT ‘have to service him’ at present! They have a spiritual and moral choice: support child-murder or not. Should we have to ‘buy’ their consciences, as Principessa says? Now THAT would probably be insulting to God.
lets face it folks,children are embarrasing and inconveniant.not to mention pregnant chicks arent all that atractive…KEEP ABORTION LEGAL!!
a big thanks for taking the time to research all those who support Tiller and where he spends his blood earned money brutally killing children in the womb.
I will not support these companies listed!
I will contine to speak out and be a voice for the unborn! I stood with you before Operation Rescue, and continue to.
I stand against those who brutally kill children, born or unborn.
I’ve stood with Operation Rescue before and I do again.
No support to those who accept blood-money!
I stand against those who brutally kill children, born or unborn.
I’ve stood with Operation Rescue before and I do again.
No support to those who accept blood-money!
Bravo to Jerry, couldn’t have said it better myself. A very articulate, reasoned argument. I concur and I really like the term “poor-choice” for pro-choice. Thanks to Pat and Kerry McNutt for the expose`on Planned Parenthood or “Planned Deathhood” as I sometimes call them. Ron, excellent as well.
You guys took almost all my arguments against the poor-choicers, which is a good thing. I will say that there is no such thing as an “unwanted” child. Someone in this world wants that baby, it just may not be the parents. Most assuredly, Jesus “wants” the babies because He created them and He did say, “Let the little children come unto me, for theirs is the Kingdom of God”. “one nation under God”.
I truly believe that we, as active pro-lifers, should find out who gives and receives monies from abortionists. Publish them all. And start boycotts. Money with greed and pride is the #1 sin in this world. If we continue to buy from a company that turns their eyes to who they sponsor then we are also turning our own eyes. Standing with pickett signs and protesting does little. But cutting the money ties will open many eyes and possibly start saving babies.
Restaurants may reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Many restaurants actually post this in writing. Just as they can politely decline to serve people not wearing shoes, if they know somebody kills babies for money, they can politely and respectfully decline to serve that person. They can also request the person not return to the restaurant, as it is private property.
It’s really pretty simple. If desired, an explanation may be given. If the explanation is overheard by nearby patrons an even more powerful witness will be made. “I’m sorry sir, we won’t serve you if you’re not wearing shoes” is just as valid as “Are you George Tiller? — I’m sorry sir, our policy is not to serve anybody known to be actively denying babies their lives” or some such wording. Even big chains like Starbucks have store managers or franchise owners that can make these decisions. Although it takes guts, it can and should be done.
There is no sin against charity in this whatsoever. Charity needs to be properly understood, with all its implications. Unfortunately many people operate with an incomplete or warped understanding of charity. But sometimes charity means doing something difficult for a higher purpose that may be misunderstood by others.
Censuring people whose actions grossly violate the rights of others is completely within our rights as Christians and as Americans. Thanks Operation Rescue!
All I can say is that I wish they would publish a list like this for the twin cities area. There are serveral abortuaries here and I would love to know who NOT to do business with. Also on a side note, if I were working some where or owned a store or restaurant I would not knowingly serve any abortionist or someone who works in their facility or anyone who supports them, I guess the thing to do would be to put a very large noticable sign in the front window letting everyone know that this is a pro life establishment and that we reserve the right to reserve service to anyone. I would also have a pro life theme throughout said business therefore anyone not committed to life would be more than uncomfortable there.
In adition to the pledge on this page, you should have a written boycott pledge that site visitors can copy and paste to mail or email to the businesses.
If you must go into starbucks or pannera’s, order water. Better yet, take with you coffee from Dunkin Donuts, which is better anyway.
Boycotting name brands and expensive coffees is a great way to quit wasting money, and assists in cutting off the donations and assistance to immoral organizations. Abortion is the most immoral business, so every effort must be made to fight against them through business tactics, as well as our votes.
Tiller makes a fortune murdering innocent babies and women. Businesses that take his blood money need to be exposed. Every dollar that Tiller “earns” is tainted and nasty. And I find it to be repulsive that a few moral invalids defend him so staunchly, yet not one of them has received an abortion by his hands. I have. Once a business knows who he is and how he makes his money, they are just as bad as he is if they don’t make his money worthless. The price that innocent women and children are paying is far higher than the dollar value he so callously assigns to life.
I noticed most of the businesses are unique to Kansas but Starbucks is a company that people in every state can and should avoid. Besides their support of abortion, they are also major supporters of gay rights. The sponsor the gay parade in Seattle every year.
My husband and I contacted our YMCA and were told they have nothing to do with the Wichita YMCA. That is not exactly true, they were all founded on the same values and they all have a say in the national process.
We decided to pull our membership and told them why we did it. And we forwarded a copy of the letter to the YMCA in Wichita and the national. (fulfillment@ymca.net) It may not be much but our family will never participate or give our money to an organization that supports abortions or abortionists. I suggest that you all do the same. And make sure you tell them why you are leaving. As my husband told them when he delivered the letter of resignation, “you bear the name you bear the shame”
My husband & I have stopped buying from several companies because of their DIRTY business. It hurts my heart to hear Christians, so called, hold their stomach while pregnant and say they can kill them if they want. Just because it is legal does not make it morally right. It it a little difficult to find companies that do not support abortions & other imoral doings, but I will continue to do so and hope many more do the same.
I have stopped bying from these and from other companies that support abortion, or planned parenthood. They will no longer be getting ANY of our money. I cannot in good conscience support the slaughter of the unborn. May God have mercy on all involoved in this. I will however pray for their conversion.
This is such important work. And the fact is that those of us who get it – I believe that majority of the country – are too busy caring for their children and supporting their husbands and wives to be able to speak out enough. But, we try…
And, for the prochoicers who wonder why we care, in simple terms it is for love. Even those of us who don’t believe in God have at least experienced love, and if you regard love as simply trite emotion or equate it only to sexual pleasure, well, what’s the point of living, anyway?
Love is respecting your partner enough to hold off on sex until fulling committing, “pro-choice” would sanction seeking pleasure and exposing your partner to great emotional loss, possible STD’s, and lead to “unwanted” pregnancy – in which case
Love is protecting that little life that is completely reliant on you to care for and nurture it – as you feel your softly rounding abdomen, you consider that little miracle of nature growing inside of the warmest and sweetest of waters, already an individual with all potential – to think of it is awesome!
“Pro-choice” would sanction ending the growth, freezing the waters, exterminating the potential, Killing the love.
I was born in January 1973. My whole life I’ve grown up around the remains of abortion. And, let’s be honest. I’ve worked as an RN for several years, especially with the poor. They are not the ones having the majority of abortions, but my friends who have means, support, opportunities, and just like to screw around. It’s so perverted! So empty! So lacking in love.
I’ve been pregnant 3 times. As I exalted in the joy of the new life inside me, and let her change my life for better forever, each time, I’ve also lamented that my little babies were, statistically, in the most dangerous place they would ever be – IN MY WOMB. How do we respond? We publish things like this list. We let people know how to live life – by love.
I was once told after participating in a Walk America for the March of Dimes, that MofD supported Planned Parenthood. This troubled me because as a kid in Catholic School I and classmates collected for them.
Is there any truth to this?
Bill A.
Valparaiso FL.
Andrea! You Rock!!Your kids must have the greatest Mom!
I pray (1) ONE THING:
Lord God creator of all, if this murderer will not repent and turn from his wicked ways of destruction of life…then by Your supernatural hand God, begin the undoing of his life and what he has established through the murdering of Your unborn children and lives You created. And replace on those properties Your reflection of what is good, right and honorable according to Your Word, Lord God Almighty. Amen and amen.
Psalm 127:3 Behold, children are a heritage of Yaweh (the Lord God Almighty). The fruit of the womb is His reward.
Yes…God IS Still In Charge! Woe unto mankind who’s belief system encourages or suggests otherwise.
Blessings to all!
Operation Rescue, thank you for your work. I always like to know which businesses support abortion; it is very helpful in knowing who to avoid. But I live in PA; how could I get my hands on an updated listing of abortion contributors in my area? It’d be nice if listings like this could be available to folks in EVERY area. (??)
A NOTE TO BOYCOTTERS:
Remember – companies must be told why they’re being boycotted; otherwise, the boycott is pointless. So pick up your pens and WRITE LETTERS, E-MAIL, and CALL these businesses, they need to hear our VOICE as to why their business is declining — because they’re in bed with blood money, and should stop. And let’s remember to pray for changes of hearts and conversions.
A simple prayer I say daily: “Lord (or Mary, our Mother), please change the minds and hearts of those who wish to abort this day. Thank you, Amen, Alleluia”
I know first-hand prayer makes a difference. A friend, Maggie*not real name* of a friend, Paige*not real name* was considering an abortion 2 years ago, and despite what I was telling Paige to tell her (“the baby can swallow, wrinkle her forehead, suck her thumb…”), this girl made an appointment at a local clinic. This girl Maggie, Paige said, even stormed away and slammed her door when told such information. This girl was obviously in pain, and denial. [I had only met her once.] So I prayed, and told my family and they prayed. Paige called me one day soon after and said Maggie and her boyfriend had left for the clinic. I felt so helpless (I hadn’t talked to the girl at Paige’s request: “She’ll kill me! I’m not supposed to tell anyone!”). With my own son just a couple months old, my heart broke for this poor young mother, deciding that killing her pre-born offspring was the best “choice”. She would never hold her precious baby, and know the joys of new motherhood that I was currently experiencing. Afterwords, Paige said she and Todd* had sex that same day, which was odd. “Trying for that ‘atonement baby’”, I remember thinking.
Well, prayer does ‘work’ !
A couple months later, Paige informs me that Maggie is pregnant again. And she’s going to keep this one. Paige and I knew this pregnancy was a direct after-effect of the abortion, for one reason or another. But with the due date in January, we did some math and scratched our heads… her first trimester overlapped with the abortion… oh well. She must have conceived immediately after. Only later do we learn that it’s the original baby, she had never aborted! It was still awhile after that, Maggie finally told Paige that she and Todd had entered the mill that day intending to abort; however the staff was impolite and degrading, and talked down to them, totally turning them off to the situation. So they walked out. “They treated them like little children, and you can’t talk to Maggie like that”, I remember Paige saying, a broad smile encompassing my face. I said a silent “thank you” prayer.
January of ‘05 came and brought with it the birth of Maggie’s baby boy. And I had the pleasure of finally meeting him a few nights ago when they all came over to visit. He is so beautiful, I just kept staring at him; I was so grateful for him, right then and there. At one point I gazed at his little toddler body, thinking of how precious his white-blonde hair and face and limbs are, how they were almost destroyed to smithereens… under the falsehood of “choice” — what a joke that is! This little boy I kissed like my own, and nobody can tell me I couldn’t have the “right” to do that.
Pray for more outcomes like Todd and Maggie’s; pray for peace. May God guide O.R. and all pro-lifers in their work.
I’m just bummed my name isn’t on this list- I’ve donated at least a hundred bucks or more to Pro-Kan Do. I feel left out!
And I guess that hundred bucks helped a little too! See you all again in two years!
HOE NOT MATT-Pro-choice you may as well sho in those stores-better yet treat Tiller out to a cup of Starbucks
Thanks Operation Rescue for the work you are doing to end the abortion holocaust, and thanks for publishing this list; we need more lists like this one.
The folks who own these businesses and patronize them should be aware of who they are doing business with. People like Tiller should be ostracized by God-loving people who have respect for God’s creation and the sanctity of a human life. Each person will make their own choices who they want to support and which side of the battle they are on.
Tiller and others like him will lose in the end. I pray that people who participate in these atrocities will see the light and change their ways, they will have a high price to pay if they do not.
Choose your side. Support whomever you will.
God Bless you all and May God’s will be done on earth, AS IT IS IN HEAVEN!
See you in Witchita January 19-22, 2007
Dr. Tiller is a memberof The Refermation Lutheran Church?!???!!! This man accepts communion at mass?????!!!!!!!!!!!???? My God! I don’t believe this! OOOOOOOOH BOY! I thought for sure he was an etched in stone, card carrying, James Randi worshipping atheist! Does Tiller actually have a conscience? I can’t imagine so! Does he think going to mass and accepting communion will “clear” him of his despicable deeds? I’ve know a lot of hypocritical christians in my time, but none who we’re murders!
Whether or not you boycott every business on this well-researched and poignoint list or not is not the point. The point is to actively pray for a change of heart and vision for each member of ths list (including corporate decision-makers). What Our Lord leads you to do after this, and in addition to this, will be different for each person. Let’s not underestimate the power of our joint prayers!!!
My husband & I have stopped buying from several companies because of their DIRTY business.
It hurts my heart to hear Christians, so called, hold their stomach while pregnant and say they can kill them if they want. Just because it is legal does not make it morally right. It it a little difficult to find companies that do not support abortions & other imoral doings, but I will continue to do so and hope many more do the same.