Comments on: Rick Warren/Barack Obama AIDS Partnership Must End, Say Pro-Life Groups

By: Cindy

Cindy — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:12:10 +0000

I was researching Rick Warrens stand on biblical issues b/c I was looking for discernment while going through one of his series. I am instructed biblically to check the teachings of others against Gods word. I do not want to be counseled by anyone who compromises Gods word and his clear truth. We live in a christian society with watered down truths and principles, we would rather make the truth fit us rather than adhere to the Gods truth. Jesus went into the sinners home and dined with them to show His love and mercy, but he did not offer him to speak his sinful views as if it were truth. There is only one truth, whether people want to agree to that…Jesus is the way, the TRUTH, and the life…we cannot be a follower of Christ and work on the efforts of doing any good outside of this absolute truth. There is ‘NO good accomplished’ outside of it, so it is then a hypocrisy to all who hear it and, more importantly, God does not honor it! He created us for His purpose and to bring glory to himself, so any life saving measure must be accomplished through His truths and no other way! He always deals with the heart first, He never carried much discussion without the cleansing of sin. (Ex., The woman at the well, the women brought before him in the act of adultery, etc.) He did not say, we can agree to disagree on those issues, but we can work together on these. Sin brings death, spiritual death, which is a way bigger problem than any earthly epidemic we face in our society. To join together with someone who kicks us in the teeth of our core value system (LIFE) is denying Christ in the strongest form possible. God gave those BABIES life in the womb as Psalm 139 tells us, He is their direct caregiver during those months, not their mother! It is murder to Gods child, the giver of life! Obama would not even agree to allow them to care for the babies that were strong enough to survive the horrific ‘procedures’ done to these precious little ones…he would rather them still be killed. (The ‘Induced Infant Liability act in Illinois)
May we turn our face and hearts back to the God who gave us ‘Life’ and this great country!

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:52:05 +0000

I just went back and read the rest of the comments–I am a Christian, I am pro-life and Anti-abortion, believe that marriage is designed by God to be betweeen one man and one woman, and it is “until death do us part.” I am also amazed at how hating and condemning most of the comments are!! It’s as if many of us have the same bible as I do with one more book–the Book of condemnation. I think I know why the world despises Christians–not for the reasons Jesus said they would, but rather because so many of us are hateful, arrogant, confused, un-Christ like and convinced we have a corner on the Truth. Fortunately the whole truth is: There are right and Wrong things clearly told to us in the Scripture–There are alos plenty of admonitions to love our enemies and to love those most in need of God’s love and mercy–
I am most thankful that The Lord Jesus will be my Judge and not Christians like the ones who are so firm and strong in their hate and intolerance. We all need to learn how to stand for truth and not lose the ability to love and pray for those most in need of God’s Mercy and love.

I have made too many mistakes and sinned too much to be so self-righteous!

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:40:02 +0000

What is wrong with so called Christians. You must let people of opposing views (in one area) at least speak to you. Since when is treating them with basic human dignity the same thing as agreeing with views they may have that are “sin”. I think the arrogance of Christians who resist the “Good” someone wants to do in one area, because they are sinning in another, is not what Jesus would do or want. You may find yourself harshly judged for your arrogance and pride. Clearly Obama is seriously wrong in his views on Abortion. Maybe he is right on some other things. So you don’t have to vote for him–you don’t have to call him Brother and Commune with him. But maybe you should treat him with the love of Christ, and work with him on good things he might want to do–like help victims of AIDS–or do you also believe those people are under Judgment and are getting what they deserve….?

By: Lee

Lee — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:19:11 +0000

Someone posted that Rick Warren has never preached a sermon against abortion. You need to get your facts straight before you make statements that are untrue.

http://pddocs.purposedriven.com:8088/pdf/fs/LetThereBeLife.pdf

By: Dennis King

Dennis King — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:44:22 +0000

After all the years of supporting the “purpose driven church” model, the allowing of a man like Obama in Pastor Rick’s pulpit really reflects the real “PURPOSE” of his church. The purpose is for do what it takes to reach fame, fortune, and falacy. Rick Warren has become another Baker. Speaks one thing but the results prove another. Pastor Rick get back in touch with what the Lord really called you to do . Preach the work in season and out of season without allowing the work to pervert the truth – Remember your book (Changing the Methods without Comprimising the Truth).

By: Sandra Camille

Sandra Camille — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:58:46 +0000

Pastor Rick Warren is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, he is pro-choice to kill the unborn baby; he supports gay marriages, and the KJV Bible tells us that we “shall know them by their fruits.” Satan knows that he has only a short time, and he is working overtime. In my opinion Rick Warren is one of Satan’s imps.

By: lynn

lynn — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:33:31 +0000

how could Obama possibly enlighten us on AIDS. We know what causes it and we know why it is here. It cannot be fixed or cured not today not ever!

Rick Warren is a wolf in sheep clothing. He is not about saving souls or rescueing babies. He is all about the money! IT IS THE MONEY!!! Follow the money, follow the fame. Follow his footsteps into the pit of shame…

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By: Sher

Sher — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 07:54:29 +0000

Thank you mom for letting me live. My mother was 16 when she gave me up for adoption, I met her when I was 20. Sadly, her parents(my grandparents) are still pro-abortion …weird.
I have children now and it makes me cry when I read stories of little babies being killed , just because someone could not sacrifice 9 months of their life.
It did not surprise me when I heard Rick Warren was to have Obama at his church ,since I just found out he is on the Council on Foreign Relations..not the best crowd .

Lastly, in reply to those who think Obama will actually help with an AIDS crisis…Who would want help from someone who’s in favor of KILLING babies. If he is not the enemy I am supposed to pray for then who is ??? I don’t know many worse types of people. Killing innocent babies is a crime , who cares if it’s legal in our country. We are going to be alone when we meet our Creator and when we are judged, I would not want to be someone who is backing a baby killer. Preventing AIDS is not rocket sceince for goodness sake.
My Jesus mercy.

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:14:02 +0000

As someone who is not a member of the evangelical movement, I read the article and must say that I am a little taken back by this article.

Did Jesus Christ select people who had the most biblically moral ideals in mind when he chose his disciples? Growing up I was always told that they would know we were Christians by our love. The close-minded view that you are expressing in this letter does not reflect that of what I as a Christian believe is the central them of Jesus Christ’s Teachings. Not to mention Obama said in his speech…

“I don’t think we can deny that there are moral and spiritual component to prevention….In to many places… the relationship between men and women, between sexuality and spirituality, has broken down and needs to be repaired.”

Time to approach the problems of the world with an open mind and an open heart, The truly Christian way.

By: rosie

rosie — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:33:36 +0000

Angie,

I didn’t detect any “hate” for Sen. Obama in the press release, just objections to the hypocricy of having someone speak on a life issue that has already expressed extreme disregard for human life. It is possible to disagree, and even rebuke someone without hating them. In fact the Bible says that open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed.

By the way, how do you know people are not praying for Obama?? You jump to a lot of conclusions. Maybe a little less judgementalness on your part might go a long way. Always good to take the beam out of one’s own eye first.