Comments on: Prayer Walk At Abortion Worker’s Home Turns Violent

By: rick ellis

rick ellis — Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:22:57 +0000

The wrath of God abides on the children of disobediance. God has love for all man kind that is made available thru the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ.

One will never experiance the fulness of God’s love, until one has surrendered to the Lordship of Christ.

Until that time, yes, God hates sinner and sin both. We are to offer the gospel to the sinner so they can come to a place of salvation and blessing.

The basic gospel message is to escape the wrath of God to come, thru the love gift of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

To soft soap God’s wrath, is a very dangerous exclussion of a part of the gospel. If God loves me just the way I am, what do I need Jesus for anyway?

Why do I need the transforming power of the cross if God is such a love patsy?

Turn or burn!!

By: me.

me. — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:16:31 +0000

yeah ok lets go hit ppl because we dont like what there doing. wow, what a bunch of dingle dorks.

By: tobra

tobra — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:39:54 +0000

i am glad Jesus was an exclusionary activist. what is going on with the baby killer’s man who attacked the prolifers, is the american government’s staff going to arrest him? usually when american police see or even hear of any type of physical contact on american soil they arrest the person who touched or struck another, you might pursue why this arrest has not occured? please mention the persons attacked were not in the womb.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:36:20 +0000

“Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.”

Good verse, I believe we should applyit and press charges when attacked lest others are attacked in greater degree in future proabort anger…..
but I wonder how does 2Peter 3:9 and Habakkuk 2:3 play into how we a limited mortals might percieve God sentencing of justice in cases like this?

“The Lord does not delay His promise, as some understand delay, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.”

“For the vision is yet for the appointed time;it testifies about the end and will not lie.Though it delays, wait for it,since it will certainly come and not be late. ”

In regard to God hating “some” sinners …

Psalm 5:5
teaches us that God hates ALL workers of iniquity.

Perhaps it is the exclusionary activist aka elitist who thinks that God somehow accepts or loves some sins as He might accept or love some types of saving childrens lives and not other types?

Most cults start out with the idea that they are better than other ‘believes’, yes?

By: tobra

tobra — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:42:26 +0000

you could have contacted cheryl sullenger for my email. wished you would have done what you said and commented only on the prolife victims and that subject.

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:21:33 +0000

Tobra, I’m not sure how to get this to you via email. Consider our Lord and Savior’s conversation with the adultress: “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.” Under your interpretation, our Lord would not have said that. Clearly, one must repent and avoid the sin in the future. While we cannot decide for others, one who dies in the state of mortal sin (for Catholics, this means committing a mortal sin and failing not only to receive the Sacrament of Confession, but also truly being sorry and resolving to avoid sin in the future) is almost certainly going to hell. Only God can know someone’s state. People have the opportunity to repent until death. Do you really think St. Paul, who was formerly a murderer, is in hell? Do you think St. Matthew, who was a tax collector (very bad in those times), is in hell? Did God hate either of these men for what they did? Both of these men had conversions and were later inspired by the Holy Spirit to write part of the Word of God.

By: Pat McNutt

Pat McNutt — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:53:51 +0000

Yes, PRESS CHARGES. An very on-topic Scriptural directive is found in Ecclesiastes 8:11…God bless.

By: tobra

tobra — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:35:00 +0000

bill, that is a very nice way of bascally explaining why you believe the Bible says to hate the sin and love the sinner. i think your interpretation is not Biblical and of course wanted to let readers know as i think many are decieved thinking we need to love the sinner. the Word says
God hates some sinners and offers a listing. am curious and would appreciate your response privately as ORW has the email address, how do you separate the sin from the sinner, for instance the adulterer from the adultry , the killer from the killing?

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:09:31 +0000

Tobra, the phrase “love the sinner” can be inferred quite easily from the Gospel according to St. Matthew, 5:43-48. Of course, it is quite obvious that we must hate sin.

As to whom God condemns to hell, that is God’s call, not ours. Yes, we should do our best to educate people (in a peaceful and legal manner) on what is sinful. But it is NOT our place to decide who is and who is not going to hell. See the Gospel according to St. Matthew 7:1-2.

God ultimately would LIKE all of us all to join Him for eternity. If He did not love us, He would not have sent His only begotten Son to suffer and die for us. However, God gives us free will. Anyone can make the choice to squander this most incredible and generous opportunity (one which we do not deserve as sinful humans). In such case, God will respect our choice…..and he/she will experience eternal separation from God.

However, this Scriptural discussion is really off-topic. The topic is about sinful violence committed against peaceful pro-lifers who were praying for an abortion mill employee. I have said what I have to say on the off-topic matters. Further discussion from me will be related to the pro-life victims and the crimes committed against them.

By: tobra

tobra — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:19:13 +0000

love the sinner and hate the sin, where is that located in Holy Scripture? Esau i loved and Jacob i hated. in fact He throws coward, fornificators,killers,liars and other types of sinners in Hell. blasphamey against the Holy Spirit is an unforgiveable sin, if God doesn’t forgive those guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, i doubt He loves them.