MS Governor Indicates He Will Sign Latest Abortion Ban.
Jackson, MS — The Mississippi House Public Health Committee voted on Tuesday to approve a ban on abortion similar to the South Dakota law passed by that state last week. The Mississippi bill could be voted on in the full House next week, and if approved, move on to the State Senate.
Yesterday, Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour told reporters that we would probably sign the abortion ban into law if it makes it to his desk.
Mississippi joins South Dakota and an increasing number of states that are attempting to ban abortion at the state level, hoping to force litigation that will challenge Roe v. Wade and restore the legal protections of personhood to the pre-born. Other states include Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, South Carolina, and Tennessee.
“These are exciting times for those who support the sanctity of human life,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. “The current movement to ban abortion in the states and challenge Roe v. Wade is an historic and unprecedented one — and it is picking up steam. We do not believe that Roe can withstand wave after wave of frontal attacks from so many states. We are convinced that an end to child-killing in America though abortion is no longer a possibility, but an inevitability.”
Mississippi has only one remaining abortion mill, The Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which was visited by Operation Rescue in December. (Read Story)
In both Levitius and Deuteronomy the Bible makes it clear that life is in the blood. This is generally interpretted as meaning that there is no life in a fetus until the blood begins to flow through the body. This would also seem to negate any biblical reason for opposition to early term abortions.
All reasons for abortions later on are clearly religion-based, which means they should have no place in our countries laws, unless one aspires to such religious “tolerance” as our middle-eastern neighbors have achieved.
However, I will have to say that although I am not “pro-life,” I am most definitely “anti-abortion.” Women in this country have achieved too much freedom, as demonstrated by the feminism movement of the later part of the 20th century. Any laws in which we males, and the male government, restict what women can do are long overdue.
I know that most of you will agree with me there, since the majority of posts on this site are by men who aren’t really affected either way.
JSmalls,
The pro-life movment also argues against abortion from a scientific and economic point, not just a religious point. If you were to read other parts of the Bible it speaks of women of pregnant as being with child. The actor who plays Gil Grissom on CSI also quoted Leviticus, but didn’t quote the whole verse. The verse that he quoted as to deal with the atonement of blood.
Susan B. Anothany and few other women from the Women’s Rights Movement believed that abortion is the ultimaye exploition of women. Men are also affected by an abortion.
I meant to say women who are pregnant as being with child.
I don’t know about CSI, but please don’t generalize. In Lev 17:14, you are correct if that is what was quoted. HOWEVER, Lev 17:19 is not about attonement, and says the same thing. Also, Deut 12:23 says that the life is in the bllod, so do not eat the blood. As for people being “with child,” that is a rough translation, and only refers to the original term for “pregnant” that was used before the English version. At the time of translation to English, words like “pregnant” were considered vulgar.
J Smalls,
Fact: The heart of a new human life is beating by 21 days; this is 3 weeks from fertilization, and about 4-5 weeks prior to the time most pregnancies are confirmed and unborn children are brutally slaughtered. The fact that the heart is beating would seem to indicate that it is pumping innocent human blood through the unborn child’s body; and photographs of aborted children certainly show a great deal of blood. Some of those photos are available on this website under “abortion facts”; there are several other galleries where you may view further evidence; try cbrinfo.org, priestsforlife.org, and ldi.org . . .
Serious attention to the verses you cite would have saved a great many human lives had it been given prior to the time when it was believed that diseases were matters of bad blood, so many people were bled to death with leeches (literal ones) by wrong-headed physicians who used leeches to suck their blood out, thinking this would rid their bodies of various illnesses/diseases.
It is certainly a cruel, deliberate, and perverse distortion on your part to try to turn this truth into a pretext for letting two-legged bloodsuckers (abortionists) loose to deliberately, knowingly, take innocent human life. Just because the life is in the blood does not mean that it isn’t elsewhere. Hemorrhaging is only one way to die; there are many others, of course, and most of them do not involve loss of blood.
Even before the heart is beating, the DNA is present from fertilization indicating that a unique, new individual human life is alive and growing. Not long ago, a reporter remarked to a pro-life activist we know that the pro-life position was consistent with the belief that the unborn child is a living human being with a soul. It is, and many prolifers believe that ensoulment takes place prior to birth; some even believe that it takes place prior to conception. But even if one could prove that it takes place after birth, then it would still be murder by that standard in that the killing of the child would kill all that that child would/could/should become. . .
Just think, if your mom had had you killed in utero, it isn’t a “fetus” (Latin for “infant”, “offspring”, “young one”) that would not be here now; it is all the human being you have been since birth, are now, and may yet become.
The notion that men aren’t affected either way by abortion is total hogwash. In addition to the most blatantly obvious effect, the millions of men who would be alive today had their moms not submitted to induced aboriton, I know one doctor who knew the authors of two adult male suicides in the space of one year, both of whom left notes stating that their suicides were due to their inability to cope with the overwhelming grief and guilt following the induced abortion of their children. One of these men was a full-time university student, the other was a police officer with three other children.
I think that John Bobbitt would certainly take exception to your remarks along these lines, too, if he read them. You do recall the bizarre case of John Bobbitt, whose wife Lorena tried to castrate him with a kitchen knife about 12 years back? Well, guess what? Lorena Bobbitt was post-abortive, and there is a compelling body of evidence that the aftermath of her abortion had a great deal to do with her attack on his manhood. (Please visit afterabortion.org, and put the name ‘Bobbitt’ in their search engine…what you will find will amaze you! You see, abortion is the ultimate attack on womanhood; that is one reason why the early feminists, and sane ones since then, have opposed it so strongly…
Finally, WHEN THE RIGHTS OF SOME ARE ATTACKED, THE RIGHTS OF ALL ARE IN JEOPARDY. Once it is OK to kill the innocent of any age, where do you draw the line? and how? Ever look at photos of the victims of Nazi holocaust? I have, and, though it can sometimes be somewhat difficult to discern the gender of people who have been reduced to skin and bones, shaved bald, and had their sexual organs removed for experimentation purposes, a great many of them were men; you can tell by the beard shadows, if nothing else.
The sequence in Nazi Germany went from killing the unborn (the weakest, most voiceless & defenseless are always the easiest prey, and first targets) for bullying cowards) to killing the disabled, the elderly, then the racially “unfit”, ideologically “unfit” (anyone who dared question Nazism – Hitler himself said once that it was a mercy for rulers that men don’t think- , or that chopped babies were the greatest thing since sliced bread, etc.) .
Speaking of Hitler, though, I read recently- I think it was on this site- yes, here it is:
“The Nazis certainly did not want the laws of God informing their laws, either. Your sympathy with their views on that are curiously phrased when you suggest that God’s laws “should” not inform national law: the term “should” invokes some absolute standard; but since there is, in your view, no transcendent God to authorize one particular standard as over against another, what makes yours any better than that of someone else who may view things differently? Someone, especially, that is likely to be victimized by your callous, arrogant replacement of God’s views with your own. And there are inevitably victims: As Frederick Douglass put it, “THE FIRST WORK OF SLAVERY IS TO MAR AND DEFACE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF ITS VICTIMS WHICH DISTINGUISH MEN FROM THINGS AND PERSONS FROM PROPERTY. ITS FIRST AIM IS TO DESTROY ALL SENSE OF HIGH MORAL AND RELIGIOUS RESPONSIBILITY. IT REDUCES MAN TO A MERE MACHINE. IT CUTS HIM OFF FROM HIS MAKER, IT HIDES FROM HIM THE LAWS OF GOD.” The chief aim of any totalitarian government (fascist, communist, or socialist) is, of course, to reduce all its subjects to the level of property, to be used, abused, and discarded at will with no sense of accountability to anyone for these abuses. To me Douglass’ statement is self-evident and self-explanatory; but for anyone who may require further eludication, here are a few more relevant statements from documented sources:
“National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…. The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. . . Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. . .Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. . . The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death…. Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity…. Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity…the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little…. We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State.” Adolpf Hitler, all.
“The first step in the creation of their [Nazi] new indigenous church was to get rid of the “Old Testament with its {Hebrew} morality of rewards, and its stories of cattledealers and concubines.”*
“Christianity and Nazism are like fire and water. We must not yet say this openly. Outwardly we must not attack Christianity, we must be far more clever; we are not interfering with denominational matters, but with mathematical exactitude we will win the battle for ideology. We cannot say this to those who still believe…but there are times when these things can be said amongst us, sworn comrades.”
—Party speaker at school for party leaders, June 1936
“WE NAZIS DEMAND A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN THE ENTIRE PUBLIC LIFE OF THE COUNTRY. What is the sense in still having Catholic associations of civil servants? We do not want Protestant or Catholic civil servants, we want German civil servants…We do not need a Catholic or a Protestant but only a German press. (NPR, PBS, etc.) The Catholic professional organizations and the Catholic youth organizations no longer fit into our age. They are often active in areas which the Nazi State claims for itself in the fulfillment of tasks. All these things are designed to disturb the unity of the German people, which Adolf Hitler created after fifteen years of struggle for the SOUL of Germany.” – Wilhelm Frick, Minister of the Interior (caps added)”
Hitler’s infamous book, “Mein Kampf” is a huge favorite among many followers of the middle-eastern “religion of peace”; and, while some Christian leaders have fallen prey to the delusion of anti-Semitism, these views are not consistent with the teachings of Christ or those of most, if not all, prolife Christians; so it is pure slander for you to try to use Islam as an excuse to promote an atheocracy. Secularist governments/tyrannies share a number of things in common; one of them is mass graves. This is one reason why Christians conscientiously object to secularist governments; it is also plain bone-headed for you to equate biblical religion with a religion that commands all Christians and Jews who will not submit to Islam to be killed, just because they are both “religions”, both “belief systems”. So if your own philosophy; but you seem to assume it as absolute, and demand that everyone else do so, while giving us absolutely no reason to do so. What have you got against reason?
Please test your glaring biases by facts, and stop judging facts by your biases, if only for the novelty of the experience.
Cheers, Wachet Auf, & L’CHAIM
Due to the large numbers of “eugenic” sterilizations conducted on blacks in the South by the largely white medical establishment. These were known as “Mississippi appendectomies”. . .
So nice to see the tide turning, in Mississippi being one of the first states to try to ban abortion!
The tide seems to be turning in more ways than one; apparently “eugenic”/racist birth control, once so popular in the south, has taken a northerly direction:
According to a this recent article…
Forty percent of all abortions in Pennsylvania are performed on black women. There are other choices.
By Arlene Campbell
During Black History Month, I sometimes wonder: How many Dr. Martin Luther Kings have we lost? How many Michael Jordans? Was there a black girl out there who would have been the next Rosa Parks had she lived?
Abortion has had a devastating effect on the African American community, in Pennsylvania and throughout the United States, and it’s important that we start looking at it through the prism of race.
Since 1973, when abortion was legalized, it has taken millions of black lives – and I say it this way because I believe an unborn child is indeed a living being. Here in Pennsylvania, blacks only make up no more than 12 percent of the population, yet about 40 percent of all abortions in the state are performed on African American women.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit research organization and affiliate of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, black women are three times more likely than white women to have abortions.
In the continuing national debate over abortion, the voices of average black women are seldom heard. We are often talked about, but seldom talked to. I’m an African American woman who can speak about abortion from experience. It took me years to summon up the courage to talk about my abortion, but I now speak about it freely, so that young black women will know the truth about what the right to choose really entails.
In 1974, at the age of 22, I was a junior in college when I discovered I was pregnant. My boyfriend did not want the baby. He openly talked of abortion. The thought of this act scared me but we decided to go ahead with the abortion anyway. During the “safe and legal” abortion, I became quite nervous because the doctor seemed to be having some difficulty.
As he jabbed the suction instrument farther into my uterus, I felt a sharp pain and said, “Ow.” He then snapped, “Keep still! See what you made me do!” This man knew he had done something terribly wrong, but he never acknowledged it.
As the nurse led me to the recovery room, I tried to tell her that something wasn’t right. She quickly admonished me, saying, “What do you expect to feel? You just had an abortion!” After two hours in the recovery room, they gave me a pack of pain pills and an emergency phone number to call. They sent me back to my dormitory – to die, I felt.
Within 24 hours, I was rushed to the nearest hospital with a temperature of 103. The doctor from the abortion clinic had perforated my uterus. The abortion center staff never told me about this risk before the procedure.
L’Chaim!
Several days later, I was forced to have a complete hysterectomy because gangrene had destroyed my reproductive organs. I had lost the only child I would ever have to abortion. And I continue to grieve that loss to this day.
From 1999-2002, an average of 844 black babies were aborted each day in America, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. How many women are sitting in the pews of black churches, silently mourning the children they aborted? Research from the Elliot Institute, an organization in Springfield, Ill., that studies the aftereffects of abortion on women, shows that those who abort are more likely to attempt suicide, more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. There is a hidden health crisis affecting black women, and abortion, I believe, is its cause.
It’s high time we start a new dialogue about the impact of abortion on the African American community. Young black women must be shown that there are viable alternatives to abortion, such as seeking help from churches or crisis pregnancy centers or adoption. They don’t have to shoulder the burden of unexpected pregnancy alone.
Abortion will never be a solution to poverty in our black neighborhoods, racial discrimination, or the shortage of black women in politics. Abortion is a failed public policy which is tantamount to setting off a bomb in black families. It will take us decades as a people to recover from this tragedy.
I am hopeful that one day black women will no longer be exploited by the abortion industry, that their bodies will no longer be mutilated by abortionists, and that their children will no longer be sacrificed on the altar of “choice.”
I believe the life is in the blood, so don’t eat the blood is refered to Jewish dietary laws. Jews weren’t allowed to eat any food that still had blood in it. That hardly applies to the unborn. Also, Jeremiah 1:5 ‘Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Also, Psalms 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb (NIV). The Bible does condem the spilling of innocent blood. Psalms 106:35,37-38 “They mingled with the nations and learned their works…They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons, and they shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, desecrating the land with bloodshed” God does see the unborn as human beings. Lastly, science has proven that human life begins at conception.
JSmalls,
I found and read Dueteronomy 12:23. “But be sure you do not eat the blood, because the blood is the life, and you must not eat the life with the meat.” Here is the rest of the verses. 20 When the LORD your God has enlarged your territory as he promised you, and you crave meat and say, “I would like some meat,” then you may eat as much of it as you want. 21 If the place where the LORD your God chooses to put his Name is too far away from you, you may slaughter animals from the herds and flocks the LORD has given you, as I have commanded you, and in your own towns you may eat as much of them as you want. 22 Eat them as you would gazelle or deer. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean may eat. 23 But be sure you do not eat the blood, because the blood is the life, and you must not eat the life with the meat. 24 You must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water. 25 Do not eat it, so that it may go well with you and your children after you, because you will be doing what is right in the eyes of the LORD.
This applies to eating meat and wouldn’t apply to the unborn.
This is wonderful news! The abortionists and Democrats would have us believe that we have no power and no authority to stop the killing of babies, but those who value human life are beginning to ignore those who attempt to silence us. The tide is turning toward integrity and love. Perhaps America will again become a nation of God’s blessings now that we appear to be deciding not to kill his children.
God save the children.
Praise God! Maybe the US is seeing the Light
How can I get my state to consider banning abortion? Anyone have first-hand knowledge or know who I might contact?