Massachusetts Abortion Victim’s Mom Comes Forward
Operation Rescue calls on District Attorney to Open Criminal Investigation
Hyannis, MA — Eileen Smith has come forward in order to keep her daughter’s abortion death from being “swept under the rug.” Her 22-year old daughter, Laura Hope Smith, died on September 13, 2007, during an abortion done by Rapin Osathanondh at Women Health Clinic in Hyannis, Massachusetts.
Smith told Operation Rescue that she had no idea that her daughter was 13 weeks pregnant and considering an abortion. A friend accompanied Laura to the clinic. Early reports indicated that Laura died of hemorrhage, but Smith says that her daughter died on the abortion table. “There was no bleeding. She stopped breathing and went into cardiac arrest,” said Smith.
Ten days after Laura’s death, Smith met privately for one hour at a public place with Osathanondh. He would only meet with Smith alone and refused to allow even allow her husband to accompany her. Osathanondh admitted that Laura died during the abortion but refused to admit he did anything wrong.
Smith told Operation Rescue that the details of her daughter’s death appalled and sickened her, but she could not discuss those details because she is seeking legal action against Osathanondh for killing her daughter.
“My daughter was 22, healthy, and alive when she walked into that clinic,” Smith said. “She didn’t even have a cold. There is no reason for her to be dead.”
Laura was born into abject poverty in Hondurus on May 25, 1985, and was abandoned at an orphanage. An American couple that adopted Laura abused her terribly and gave her up. Laura was then adopted by Tom and Eileen Smith, a Christian family that lovingly raised Laura in the Cape Cod community of Sandwich.
Laura was a 2004 graduate of Upper Cape Tech, majoring in cosmetology, but later realized that profession did not suit her. At the time of her death she was working in retail management. Laura was a born again Christian who was an active member of Calvary Chapel of Sandwich.
Over 600 people attended Laura’s funeral. Since then, at least one young woman has changed her mind about abortion since hearing about what happened to Laura.
Smith told Operation Rescue that two days after Laura’s death, she gave a full interview to the local newspaper, which was scheduled to be published on the day of Laura’s funeral. The article has yet to appear, leading Smith to believe that there are attempts underway to cover up her daughter’s death.
Operation Rescue is urging calls to the local district attorney asking for a formal investigation of Rabin Osathanondh in the abortion death of Laura Hope Smith.
District Attorney Michael D. O’Keefe
Phone: 508-362-8113
E-Mail: CapeDA@Massmail.state.ma.us
September 28th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Early reports indicated that Laura died of hemorrhage, but Smith says that her daughter died on the abortion table. “There was no bleeding. She stopped breathing and went into cardiac arrest,” said Smith.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
I hope her lawyer has the Life Dynamics phone number. If not pass it on!
September 29th, 2007 at 10:20 am
Please, everyone, visit this link:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07092808.html
and make your voice heard! If there are less teen pregnancies, tragedies like this wouldn’t happen! Abortion must never be tolerated, especially in Catholic colleges.
September 30th, 2007 at 4:54 am
1. We don’t know that this woman was a “born-again Christian”. (BTW, is there any other kind?)
2. Her decision to have an abortion (and it was her decision) suggests that she wasn’t a Christian.
3. It might be more accurate to say that she appeared to be, or professed to be, a Christian.
4. The person who accompanied her to the abortuary was not a “friend”; at least not in any meaningful sense of that word.
Keep up the good work!
September 30th, 2007 at 7:20 am
Regardless of her status as a Christian, those of us that believe in prayer, please pray for the soul of this woman and her unborn baby. Perhaps she was very scared (remember, many women think abortion is their ONLY CHOICE) and didn’t want to tell her parents. She also was abused by her first adoptive family, so that may have caused some problems as well.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
This whole thing is tragic all the way around. Two people died in the clinic that day, one innocent and one guilty. There is a 22 year old woman who will spend eternity in hell for killing her child. (Scripture clearly states that murderers will not inherit eternal life). Laura paid an assassin to take the life of her child, not realizing that it would also cost her her life, in the process. The only hope and solace at this point will be for the grieving parents/grandparents to bring this situation to the light, expose the darkness, and pray that this serial killer is put out of commission. Hopefully, other women who hear of Laura’s plight, will hear and fear God, and never consider abortion as an option for their lives.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:20 am
well I have to re-read scripture on murderers not inheriting eternal life…but even born again Christians can have abortions. Born again Christians can kill, rape, steal…we are still sinful humans. If you don’t walk close with God you can fall into sin just as easilly as a non-Christian. Once you are saved scripture is clear you cannot lose your salvation. and as to murdering…we are ALL murderers since it was each one of our sins that nailed Christ to the cross. I might not have had an abortion but i am a murderer just the same. No sin is too big for God to forgive if we truly repent!
October 1st, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Sarah,
Being Born again results in a changed life. A born again person doesn’t continue to live a life of sin. They act different from the world, talk different from the world, and don’t do the things of the world. And if they do sin, they are quick to repent.
You are correct, there is no sin too big for God, providing there is repentance. The book of First John pretty much outlines who and who isn’t a Christian.
Laura died in her sins, and her fate is sealed. This should make anyone who is thinking about receiving an abortion to tremble.
October 1st, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Stephanie,
Remember when Jesus was approached by the Pharisees who were holding the Adulteress? And he said “Let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone?” No one cast the stone - and Jesus did not condemn the woman either.
Yes, this young woman who had the abortion made a terrible mistake and paid for it with her own life. However, it is not our place to make judgment and say what will be her final fate on “the last day”. That decision is God’s to make, not ours.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pm
All Life is Precious,
The Pharisees were accusing Jesus of breaking the law in the matter of the woman caught in adultery. Jesus clearly points out their own hypocrisy, and then tells the woman, “go and sin no more”. I truly believe from the authority of Christ’s command, she did not return to her sinful ways.
Regarding the situation with Laura, she died in the very act of murder. And the Word of the Lord is very clear on the matter. The Word is our Judge.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:09 pm
I must respectfully say: does it matter? It is not our place to know whether or not she was condemned. All we can do is pray for her soul and try to better our own spiritual lives. We have no idea where she was spiritually in her relationship with God, so who among us can say what her fate was?
October 1st, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Stephanie,
I appreciate your point, but I think you are usurping God’s place as judge. God does demand righteousness, and He does say that unrepentant sinners will not see the kingdom of Heaven. Yet the God of Christianity is also the God of mercy and grace in abundance.
Besides there are even mitigating circumstances in the OT law. David, Saul/Paul, and others did not suffer the death penalty for their transgressions, though that was the maximum penalty and would not have been unjust.
Let us pity this young woman and comfort her family; let us long and strive to reach those considering a similar path; let us ponder the corruption and confusion in our own hearts and turn to Christ as our only redeemer; but let God alone judge her soul according to His wise, righteous, and merciful counsel.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Yes, if any man be in Christ he is a NEW CREATURE! however, our sin nature is still in us…we now have the ABILITY to resist sin when we receive Christ but it does not make us perfect. My brother is a born again Christian…he is in prison. He accepted Christ as a kid and went to Christian school and church…but he fell away from the Lord and into sin. and look where it landed him. He is still saved, his sin did not take away his salvation…the Bible says we are in the Father’s hands and no man can pluck us out…not even ourselves. Its not a free pass to sin, don’t get me wrong, but we can know that if we are truly repenting and condemn our sins God will forgive.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 am
Dear Friends,
The point is being missed here. Laura did die in the very act of murder. I’m not her judge, the Word of God has ALREADY judged her. It doesn’t matter if she once said the “sinner’s prayer” or made a “decsion” or was “baptized” etc. We cannot pray her into heaven. Once a person breathes their last breath, their fate ( or reward) is sealed.
Matthew 7 is very clear, that the gate and the road, is very narrow and there are few that find it. A person who is truly born again will bear the fruit of righteousness. And those who die in their sins will bear the penalty of them ( see 2Peter 2:20-22, Ezk 33:18, Ezk 18:24)
Laura’s death should serve as an example, that a Holy God will not be mocked. It should prompt those who stand against infanticide, to be bold, and warn those going into the clinics that they may not come out alive, and that they will die in their sins. True love warns.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:25 am
If she once said a “sinner’s prayer” and meant it then she is saved and even having an abortion and dying in the midst of it will not wash Christ’s blood from her. If she is covered by the blood of Christ then she is saved. period. and she can’t lose her salvation. I agree, once a person has died you can’t pray them into heaven. I believe this girl is in heaven, if she was saved. Its awful to think that she died while killing her child and then had to look into the face of God and explain herself.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 am
Stephanie,
I understand what you are saying regarding the terrible consequences of sin. We are all condemned whether we participant in murder, adultery, lie or talk back to our parents. There’s nothing we can do about our sinful conditions. We are all lost and on our way to hell. But….Jesus Christ paid the cost that we could not pay ourselves. Stephanie you are a sinner. You may not have taken a life (through abortion or any other way) but you are still just as much a sinner. Only faith in the sacrifice of Christ will keep you from damnation. 1 John says that we are liars if we say we claim to be without sin. Christians do sin. If our salvation depends on us doing the right things all of the time, then Jesus Christ died for nothing. James wrote if you keep the entire law but fail on one point you’re quilty of breaking the entire law. But….Jesus.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Stephanie,
I see you are a great student of the Word of God. You know who else was…the Pharisees. Your legalistic mentality is exactly the same as what Jesus condemned the Pharisees for thoughout the New Testament. Being a Christian does not give us the right to judge another person’s soul. That right belongs to God alone. There is no hierarchy of sin. Christians love to point to abortion and homosexuality as the gravest of all sin but Jesus condemns pride, greed, gluttony, lust, etc a whole lot more in the Bible. Stephanie lets say you were walking down the street, saw an attractive male, and had a lustful thought about him, and then were suddenly hit by a car and died. Wouldn’t you go to hell based on your rationality? We are saved by grace, not by anything that we can do. We do not lose our salvation everytime we make a mistake and sin. That contradicts everything that is in the Bible.
Christ says that they will know we are followers of him by our love for each other. Stephanie, your comments show no Christ-like love or forgiveness, rather they show a judgemental and twisted view of the Gospel. If you truly want to see people saved from their sins, then you should rid the plank in your own eye first and love people as Christ loved people. Don’t condemn people who have had abortions or are thinking about it, but love them as Christ would and He will change their heart.
October 2nd, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I had a long conversation with Laura’s pastor the other day, and he assured me that she was a sincere Bible-believing Christian and had a strong walk with the Lord. So how should we respond to her death?
This should serve as a clarion call to the church that abortion is OUR problem, not just something we can pass off on those “heathens.” Anyone who is involved in reaching out to women going into abortion businesses knows that many Christians abort their babies, assuring us “God will forgive me” as they reject God’s paths to follow steps ordained by the devil.
If we stop abortion in the church, abortion will stop in the nation (the abortionists couldn’t afford a 75% profit reduction). Until the church takes seriously the abortions that happen in the church, we can’t expect the world to take us seriously on anything. After all, if we can’t speak out as “shepherds” for the most innocent and helpless of our church members, we’re like the blind leading the blind.
I pray that the death of Laura Hope Smith will bring the end of Christians’ apathy about the innocent little brothers and sisters of their flocks being put to death. If not, we deserve what comes next (”judgment begins with _________”).
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Stephanie,
Your comments alarm me. As Christians we should not be sitting in judgement of others. This situation is for God to judge. I must add that we as Christians sin every day and God does not place a degree on our sins. To God sin is sin.
From your comments, if I am in traffic and I curse someone who cuts me off then I am killed in an accident, I am condemned to hell because I died in the act of commiting a sin. When I read the bible there is only one who was without sin and He was the one who died for all no matter what sin.
Yes we are new, the old is washed away and we are transformed once we give our hearts to the Lord, but as Christians we still sin. I struggle with sin every day and regret many things that I do throughout the day, but I am still saved. I don’t loose my salvation everytime I sin. Thank God for that.
Do you know that Laura did not bear the fruit of righteousness? The article states that over 600 people attended her funeral. Obviously she touched many lives in a positive way because of her walk with God.
Pray and ask the Holy Spirit to help you to understand and not to judge.
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:21 pm
As Christians we sometimes like to rank sins. I think the reason that we do this is so we can feel good about ourselves. The church likes to rank sins such as abortion and homosexuality and adultery as the “really bad ones”. That way, we can pat ourselves on the back if we do not struggle with these sins and think that we are doing a “good job” keeping ourselves pure. But let’s look at the sins that Jesus spent a great deal of time talking about in the gospels: sins such as pride, dishonesty, gluttony, materialism, envy, and hypocrisy. When you look at most of the church today, these sins abound (I myself struggle with these sins). What makes you think that because a Christian struggled with and committed the sin of abortion that they are damned to hell but a Christian who struggles with dishonesty or gluttony or materialism or pride is “ok” because in our minds it is not a “major” sin?
ALL SIN separates us from God. There are none of us who are righteous without the redeeming work of Christ. Paul said that he was the chief of all sinners!(1 Tim 1:15) According to our faulty human ranking system we would consider Paul to be one of the best Christians who ever lived! But when you accept the salvation that Christ gives you realize how far you are from God when trying to stay pure on your own and that every single sinful thought, desire, motive and action is sin. That is why we need the saving grace of Christ because even one “little” sinful thought, deed or motive separates us from Christ.
You may think that Laura was not a “true” Christian because she committed a sin that you do not struggle with. But what if you are in the process of telling a lie and suddenly get a heart attack and die; or what if your gluttonous eating habits cause you to get a heart attack and die? Are you damned to hell?
Rather than focus on a moment in Laura’s life (yes it was a sad and horrible thing that she did, but all sin is sad and horrible to God), we should look at the fruit of righteousness that her life bore. As someone who knew Laura, I desire to show more of the Christ-like love, servant’s heart and compassionate attitude that Laura displayed throughout her life. At her funeral, people professed that Laura was the only person who helped them go to church, that she was there for them when they were at a low point, that she showed the love of Christ to them when they felt like they had no one else. One day before God He will ask us all what we did with His Son. Laura did much with His son during her life.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:34 am
Dear friends,
So when Christ said there was a narrow way and there were FEW who find it ( mt 7) was He being judgmental?
When Jesus said murderers will not inherit eternal life did that just apply to “unsaved” murderers?
Jesus said, “if you love Me, you will keep My commandments” Isn’t murder breaking one of His commandments?
Isn’t abortion murder????
Enough said….
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:26 am
ya know it is the very judgemental, holier than thou attitudes in our churches today that led Laura to abort, I’m sure. I am not excusing her sin or saying churches should not condemn sin like fornication, but I wish our churches would be more reconciling and loving, then young Christian girls like Laura might not choose abortion. this whole story makes me sad. I’m sorry for her family and friends most of all….my prayers are with them. truly.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am
Lizzy, good point. To me, abortion is one of the very worst sins.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 am
Friends,
We are not allowed to dismiss the witness of holy scriptures. The Word of God is the final authority on all matters of life & faith.
Those of us who minister at killing places meet thousands of aborting moms & dads each year. Many are living with their lovers & killing their infants for the 2nd, 2rd & even 19th time! Our duty as followers of Jesus Christ is to proclaim His Word, not our own. The way of salvation is clear. “Unless you repent, you will perish.” Jesus Himself taught that at that great & terrible Day of the Lord (Judgment) there will be MANY who would cry out emphatically to Christ, calling Him ‘Lord, Lord!’ Sadly, the Savior pronounced that He would have to tell the false converts that He did not know them. The tragic gospel truth is that ‘workers of iniquity’, including shedder of blood, are doomed. Jesus tell us what He will say unto them: “Depart from Me” & the Lord tells us that He will send them to the outer darkness where there is weeping & gnashing of teeth.
We take no delight in the death of the wicked, churched or unchurched. Pharisees were ‘churched’ & professing believers. Those of us who are bound to publish the truths in the Word of God are barred from giving false comfort to workers of iniquity because it would be cruel to give people the impression that they are accepted of God when they are not. It is possible, & with all of my heart I would desire that it be true, that Laura came to recognize her willful disobedience & cried out to the Savior in genuine repentance in her final moments. However, Jesus taught us that we cannot have assurance of faith if we are workers of inquity.
The reason that this IS VERY IMPORTANT is that these are biblical matters that are not of private interpretation. Jesus didn’t speak in vague terms when He told of the MANY who would perish in spite of calling Him their Lord. When a person is born from above Christ does something miraculous in their soul. Jesus is the double-cure. He takes both the PENALTY & the POWER of sin from us. We are filled with the Holy Spirit, which provides us with a way out of all temptation.
Stephanie is right to insist upon allowing the scriptures to speak for God! Let this tragic death of a beautiful young churched woman cause us to be more faithful than ever in speaking against the shedding of innocent blood both INSIDE & OUTSIDE the visible church. Let this be a clarion call to godly pastors & to us! Let this be another blow upon the shofar for God’s people to seek & save the lost. We know that God uses people to bring the good news to those who are perishing. Determine in your heart to lay yourself in surrender to the King & get out to the killing places to introduce yourselves to the aborting moms. Love them, help them, preach the truth in the moral Law of God to them, the way Jesus did. The divine eternal scriptures assure us that the Law of the Lord (10 commandments, including “You shall not murder”) brings the knowlege of sin. “The Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.”
It is essential that the unbelievers & false converts & converts alike hear the message that brings conviction of sin & fear of the Lord that leads to genuine repentance. It takes more than believing in God to be saved, one must confess AND forsake sin to be assured of having been truly converted. Only those who endure to the end will be saved.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 pm
Hi All,
I’m not too sure what the debate is but can say this for certain.If Laura repented she has been forgiven. If she hasn’t she will be held accountable for what she did. as we all are. I think she was a believer but in her moment of crisis instead of turning to the church and others who could have helped her she chose to put her trust in the abortionist. I think the chruch is just as responsible for her death as the abotionist is for not getting involved in her life. She knew what the Torah(Scriptures) says about murder however she chose this route because no one was bold enough to step in and intervene in her life If that was the case. I think we would be talking about her and her baby in the near future. The torah commands us to judge justly, love mercy and walk humbly with our Adonai. Judging justly means to to judge the acts of an individual whter they are good or bad. But not to judge the character of that individual. I can say to a guy who get drunk and wants to drive himself home not to do so and if necessary,take the keys away from him. Because if I don’t, he will more than likely kill himself and others with him. that’s called intervention. However if i say to him he’s a no good lousy drunk then I am judging his character and thats not what Adonai would want me to do.
October 4th, 2007 at 9:01 am
I also think that we need to realize that some women who abort are confused and misguided. However, some of them are callous sociopaths, and you can talk to them 10 years after their abortions. They still aren’t sorry. These women need prayer, because they think that the “legalization” of abortion makes it acceptable. They don’t think they have done anything wrong.
October 4th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Must watch three minute video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYsClDclvf0&mode=related&search=
October 4th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
I just want to use point out from THE BIBLE the examples of David and Paul. David KILLED Uriah, Bathsheba’s husband so he could have her. David repented and was FORGIVEN. David, a MURDERER was called ” A man after God’s own heart” correct?
When Paul was SAUL he killed MANY CHRISTIANS. Yet he eperienced SALVATION when he REPENTED. I agree with the video Stephanie that many people who think they are Christians will end up in hell. A lot of people think they are saved but are not truly trusting ONLY Christ to get to heaven. And its true that no where in the Bible does it say to ask Jesus “into your heart” that salvation is through faith alone and calling your sins what they are…sins. However, I want to point out First Peter 5:9…this verse talks about how we still share the same sins as non-christians…we still struggle with the same human nature. We won’t be free from sin till we reach heaven….it touches every cell of our bodies…sins affects and tugs and pulls are everywhere. that is why we must put on our spiritual armour to resist the temptation to sin. Obviously at some point Laura strayed from her walk with God and did not put on her spiritual armour. and look where it landed her. its a caution to us all.
October 4th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
well, I told my assistant priest about what happened to this poor girl and he agreed with my that Jesus was merciful and Just with the adulteress. When Judgment Day comes for young Laura, if she realizes what she did (and that it caused her death) and she’s sorry for it, then I believe that God will show her Mercy. I am praying for her soul, and for the blemished souls of those that have had abortions and for those considering abortions. I am praying for more young girls to turn away from this desperate choice, like one did after Laura’s funeral.
October 4th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
If the Attorney General of Massachusetts won’t investigate Laura’s death at the hand of her abortionist, I hope that her family will pursue a wrongful death malpractice case against Rapin Osathanondh and file a complaint with the Massachusetts Medical Board. Every legal and financial means must be used to stop these abortionists.
October 4th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Sarah,
We are making some headway here to a better understanding of what I was sharing. The key though, to all sin is repentance, and repentance involves doing a 180. In the matter of David, he was guilty of shedding innocent blood for sending Uriah out to the front lines of battle to be killed. He fully knew what fate lie ahead for Uriah, as he desired to take his wife Bathsheba. Because David did this evil, God took he and Bathsheba’s first born son. His sin came at a price. Fast forward to Psalm 51, what powerful repentance David had toward God, and his sin. Once David went through this powerful transformation, he never engaged in the shedding of innocent blood again ( although he was a man of warfare). In regards to Saul/Paul, once he was converted, he no longer killed or consented to the death of Christians. He was a changed man. I am grieved though, that many who name Christ, believe that they can just say a prayer, or make a decision, etc. and still talk, walk, and act like the world. If a Christian is sanctified ,they are set apart. Jesus told us that if he overcame, that we are able to do the same. In regards to Laura, she committed fornication and murder. She did not love her neighbor ( unborn child) as herself. We are commanded to love the Lord our God will all of our heart, soul, and mine and to love our neighbor as ourself. Now if this death had occurred over in China, and a Christian lady was dragged from her home, and had her child forcibly aborted, she would be innocent. But the sad truth is, Laura, called a clinic, made an appointment, paid the money and willingly placed herself on that cold hard table. This process, probably took days or weeks before she went to that clinic. If Laura had killed a BORN child, this would be considered premeditated murder in any court of law. Even in the OT there was a clear distinction between sins of omission and sins of commission. There were cities of refuge for manslayers who killed unintentionally ( manslaughter), and the death penalty was imposed for those who murdered intentionally. God states that all Scripture is given for our instruction ( both OT and NT). I would hope and pray that no sidewalk or CP counselor, would give any young woman false hope that she can murder her child and God will just wink at her sin. I would also pray that this situation could be used to turn hearts and minds of young woman, and they would never let the word abortion ienter nto their thoughts. May all Christians hear and fear, draw closer to the Lord, and to His Word.
October 4th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
If more vicims and families come forward with their story, more abortionsts will be prosecuted.
October 4th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
okay, Stephanie, but what if Laura really did repent of sin and was born again. just because she had an abortion she didn’t LOSE her salvation. I’m not in any way excusing what she did…it was horrible and selfish and sinful. and I think if she was a Christian God will judge her all the more harshly (thats Biblical too) I mean look at Cain, the very first murderer. he killed his own brother (just as bad as killing your own child) God set a mark on him so that “bounty hunters” wouldn’t take justice into their own hands. I don’t know if Laura was saved. The Bible does say that you will know a believer by their fruits….but apparently she had a lot of fruit in her life but strayed horribly in the end and it cost her her life. I’m just saying that if she was born again she is in heaven no matter what she did in her final moments. but by the way I appreciate your comments and the scripture you’ve cited…it has caused a lot of food for thought….
October 5th, 2007 at 7:51 am
Sarah,
Do you have an hour to spare? Please watch the full length message by Pastor Paul Washer. It’s one of the most powerful messages I’ve heard in a long time.
Blessings,
Stephanie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8
October 5th, 2007 at 9:04 am
All LIfe Is Precious stated:
“I am praying for her soul, and for the blemished souls of those that have had abortions and for those considering abortions”
The Bible clearly prohibits praying for the dead. We are to pray for their salvation before death. Once a person takes their last breath their eternity has already been determined.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:49 am
Stephanie,
Shouldn’t we pray for the blemished souls of the women who have had abortions (the ones who did not die), that they seek God’s merciful forgiveness. That they can learn to forgive themselves for what they did.
I do wonder if Laura’s mother even cared that she lost her grandchild as well as her daughter. Or is she like Monty Peterson and how he didn’t seem to care about Holly’s baby (Holly being the girl that died as the result of the RU486 drug a few years ago).
October 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Where, might I ask, does it prohibit this?
October 5th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
All life is precious,
Yes indeed, we should pray that women who have aborted will be convicted of their sins and seek the Lord’s forgiveness. While they are still alive there is always hope, providing they repent and turn from their sins.
Reese,
Heb 9:27 “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”
Luke 16 ( the rich man and Lazarus) is a good chapter on the permanency of hell and heaven, as it makes it clear that once you are in heaven ( Abraham’s bossom) or in hell you cannot cross over to the other side
Deut 18: 10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer ( calling on the dead).
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:28 pm
Why is everyone discussing this woman’s “sin” when the point should be that we need more victims of abortionists to speak out so the abortionists can be prosecuted and abortion will be hindered. If we condemn those who do come forward with their story, the hidden secrets of abortion will remain.
October 6th, 2007 at 8:30 am
Alayna,
I think you hit the nail on the head:”Victims of Abortionists” In China yes, here in America, no. I’m not trying to belabor my point, but women who willingly call an abortion clinic, make an appointment, sign the papers, give money to the killer, are guilty of premeditated murder. If a woman hired a hit man to kill her husband, and she died in the process of the scheme, would most people refer to her as a victim? As a long time anti-abortion advocate, I continue to witness, that the humanity of a born child and an unborn child are treated differently. For example, Andrea Yates drowned her six born children, and most Americans were outraged, and demanded justice. If she would have had a massive heart attack and died in the process of her killing spree, most would say, good, I’m glad she was stopped. But when a woman who dies either in the process of an abortion, or after the procedure, she becomes a “victim”. Pro-lifer’s do such a great disservice when they treat abortive mother’s as victims ( unless they were truly forcibly done). The sooner a mother realizes that she has committed murder, and repents of her sins, the sooner healing can take place. We need to remember first and foremost, that the babies who are torn from limb to limb are the true and innocent victims.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:15 am
Alayna, great point!
October 6th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Like Alayna said, Let’s get back to the point at hand: This incident needs to be told around the world to show women that abortion is really dangerous!
Actually, Laura was a victim. She was the victim of so called “Choice”. I wonder, as this story unfolds, if we’ll learn more about this “friend” that took her for the abortion.
October 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
well I agree with Stephanie. I feel a great deal of compassion for women who have abortions and hurt physically, spiritually and emotionally but they are hardly victims. Would we say that a gay man who lives an immoral gay lifestyle and dies of AIDS is a victim? or is it just PC to say so for aborted women? ALL sin has consequences and unfortunately for Laura the consequence was death. I’m not saying that we be hateful to women who come forward and share their abortions stories…but women I’ve heard speak about abortion tell their stories and say “I KILLED my child. I SINNED” not ” I was a VICTIM”. Thats the problem in most situations, women are pressured into abortions and instead of standing up for their unborn babies they relinquish control, have the abortion and then play the victim role. all the reasons I’ve ever heard girlfriends give for their abortions were all very selfish. they were hardly victimized but that doesn’t mean they don’t suffer because of their choices and actions.
October 8th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Women Health Center is actually not a CLINIC but it is just a freestanding OFFICE.
October 12th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
The final judgement where a soul chooses hell is known to God ***alone***. You may not say definitely a soul is in hell, because to say that is to say you are God. Do not pretend to know what happens to a particular soul. You do not know for sure.
However, it is true that one who dies in UNREPENTANT mortal (grave) sin (where they knew it was a mortal sin and freely chose to sin) would go to hell. It is known to God alone if this soul repented. Also it is clear abortion is a grave sin.
It is our job, out of CHARITY, (brotherly and sisterly LOVE) to pray for the soul of this girl. Do you have a sister that you love? Or someone dear to you? Imagine this girl, was that person. How much love is there? Try to love her as Christ loves us.
I pray that this poor young woman repented (if she was freely choosing to commit this sin), knowing fully it was wrong. If she prayed and repented…so when she met Jesus -WHO IS LOVE AND MERCY ITSELF…she would be forgiven.
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men.
October 12th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Okay Be Merciful, but see thats the problem…works don’t earn you salvation. Jesus said ” I am the way the truth and the life. NO MAN comes unto the Father BUT BY ME” (John 14:6) It is not enough to be sincere…thats why true Christians need to tell others about Christ! He is the only way to heaven! By Grace are you saved, NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast….also in the Bible…
October 13th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
I would just like to say that Laura was a good person and christian. Her decision was hers you can’t judge her on that if you don’t know what brought her to that. And for your message Michael Hawke who are you to say her friend was not a true one I must say that your comment was horrible and you must now have very good friends or any at all. A true friend is someone that will stick with you no matter what and will make sure that they know what you think at all times. You can not make or stop somebody from doing what they want. You don’t control people you be there for them emotionally and physically. You are a horrible person and I hope that God grants you hell. She is in heaven watching over us like the ANGEL she is.
October 13th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Friend, I’m sorry you lost Laura. Really. but its not very Christian to wish that God would grant someone hell for a comment they made. Didn’t Laura confide in anyone? did she confide in you if you were such a great friend, there for her emotionally and physcially? This didn’t have to happen. It shouldn’t have. I’m not calling into question her salvation in any way…but it sure is a shame she died while blemishing her testimony. But God works all things together for good…hopefully a lot of young Christians will get right with God because of this
October 15th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Laura was a great girl and shined greatly wherever she was. As a friend of the family, I don’t believe any of you can judge who she was from a one page article. She cared more deeply for God and her family and friends than a lot of people do. She was a Christian who believed in a forgiving God. If God forgives our sins then who is to say He didn’t forgive hers? Laura is an angel and will forever watch over us because she and her unborn child are with God as they will be forever.
December 8th, 2007 at 12:08 am
There are so many God’s here. So many. I thought God was a forgiving God. I must be mistaken. I never realized so many perfect people could respond to one page. Let me bow in your presence. But for those of us who knew this lovely young woman, she smiled more than anyone I knew. She ate the most horrible foods, God forbid, oops, I mean, You All forbid, she ate a vegetable. She, I am sure felt so many things. Alone, scared, confused, uncertain. She waited so very long to make a life altering decision, which knowing her as we all did, was clearly NOT a hasty one. This was a hard working young woman, loved by more than you can imagine. Were you there? Were you there with the over 600 people to say goodbye? Were you there crying and holding eachother trying to figure out, how she could feel alone with all these people who couldn’t comprehend coping without her? Unless you have walked in her shoes, lest ye not judge. She was loved. And deserves better than the holier than thou’s. Everyone has skeletons, what’s yours? Luckily, you didn’t die for yours for others to judge.
December 31st, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I have been reading this site in tears!! Its new years and my family has lost our precious LAURA! Its seems stephanie and a one other have took it upon themselves to judge my sister w/o even knowing her and her heart. I actually grew up in a church (like I am sure stephanie goes to )that says one sin will cause you to BURN in hell forever! I lived in fear my whole childhood, about thinking a bad thought I was then damned to hell. Laura grew up in the same church as well. My family left that church after realizing it was controling and manipulating their lives. I am so happy that they realized GOD is ALL LOVING and not a judging god
Abortion was never discussed as an issue for young girls. I had falling from gods grace for about 5-6 years. Laura always prayed and was always faithful to her beliefs in god. I look back and wish I had her heart:)
I had an abortion 4 years ago and Laura really was so hurt and crushed about my decision. She cried and was really upset (this is what I don’t understand why ?? she did this ) . I asked god to forgive me and I believe he has its just something that I have to forgive myself…..
I do believe its murder , but at the time I tried to justify and make myself believe its a fetus not an actual baby. I still cry and now that I have lost my sister for the same act I commited years ago,. I am just lost for words!!
Laura s funeral was packed with kids that said Laura has changed their lives and how lost they were w/o her. I believe that god will use her death to help others. Its an awful thing and I love and miss her grately. Laura was an aunt to my baby girl Kylie now 2 !:)and our other sisters 2 children.
I want us not to judge and quote scripture!! God is the only one to know her heart and her death and lets not hurt the people that love and miss LAura by reading stephanies emails that only jdge and condem people. THAT IS NOT GOD , just b/c you can read what the bible says and sit in church and judge other people outside of it, does not make it right ! THe bible says alot and to pull your scriptures out and compare it to lauras life is just wrong .
That doctor that killed laura completes 15 abortions a day! That s only one doctor!! Just imagine how many girls that are scared and alone not strong enough to stand up and take responsibilty for their actions . I don’t want girls to read this and be scared of hell and god but to know that god can and does and will forgive any act of sin.. all sin is equal in his eyes. And that GOD will help them in their act of weakness and help them choose the right the decision.
GOD IS ALL LOVING !!!:)))
xoxo.. love you Laura Hope ….lola:)
February 21st, 2008 at 10:24 am
“A sincere Bible believing Christian who had a strong walk with the Lord”? Hardly! 1. She had sex outside marriage and 2. She chose to kill her child rather than face the consequences of having sex outside marriage.
Any idea that this woman was a Christian is just wishful thinking. She no doubt made all the right noises but her actions show what she really was. If she had survived the abortion, I hope the church would have disfellowshipped her.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Liz Ward- Wow! “If she had survived the abortion, I hope the church would have disfellowshipped her.” Wow! People who think the way you do are the reason so many never step foot in a church to begin with. God is a God of mercy and the christian church SHOULD be the first place people can go to when they need help. Jesus came for the SICK, not the healthy. Apparently you are perfect and have never commited a sin in your life, judging from your comment “her actions show what she really was”. Have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever dis-obeyed your parents? Have you ever shown anything less than perfect love for your neighbor? Do you have un-forgiveness in your heart? Have you ever held a grudge against someone? Wow, I guess that means that your actions at those moments show what you (and all of us) really are and we should all be “disfellowshipped”. But then wouldn’t that mean that the church wouldn’t exist at all?!
As hard as it is for us mortals to understand it, in the eyes of God, a murdered is the same as a liar, the same as a pedophile, the same as a cheater, the same as a rapist. There is no rank of sins that are worse than others. If God is small enough to be understood by our finite minds (including who he chooses to have mercy on) then he is not big enough to be worshipped.
To the family- I pray for your healing and that you would find (if you’re not already in one) a body of believers who can support you and not judge you or your daughter during this difficult time. I’m sorry that this happened to you and I’m so sorry that your daughter was so confused and decieved that she didn’t feel she had any other alternative. God is a God of mercy and only He knows what went on in her heart during the last minutes or even seconds of her life. I pray that he helps you through your confusion and pain and you can find the help and healing you need.
I will continue to pray for you as the Holy Spirit brings you to my mind.
I’m so sorry for your losses.