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Love lies on and on and on

Besides, although a true Christian will be against abortion, just as he/she would be against any other murder, ABORTION IS NOT A RELIGIOUS ISSSUE. ABORTION IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE. The unborn child has just as much a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as does anyone else. To kill that child is just as much murder as it was to kill Terri Schiavo or to kill any other innocent human being. It is a lie to say the disabled or the preborn is not human. That same lie was used to justify the killing of Jews, the enslaving of Africans, and the slaughter of so many native Americans. That lie is used by despots who want to gain power and by those who want to destroy others who get in their way or inconvenience them.

Are any of the above comments from Doctors? If not, it seems odd that you would feel inclined to make your own determination of what caused her death. Playing armchair Doctor is not the best way to practice medicine, nor is it acceptable to imply that a medical evaluation of one person constitutes an attempt to dehumanize or deprive the disabled.

As to witnessing the macabre drama, it seems you were a huge contributing factor to the pervasive natural of this drama. By making a circus out of her tragic situation you contributed to reducing her case to merely a vehicle for the spread of your ideological propaganda.

Being “Pro-Life” means you would choose to live in a Vegetative states for the rest of your life as opposed to being relived of your suffering, or is that just for others and not yourselves?

Lets look at the sliver of difference between the death of Mrs. Schiavo and the millions of other people murdered. In pointing out the atrocities that have been carried out in the past you seems that you neglected to include a few. The Crusades, spreading Western Christendom by murdering non-believers, The Spanish Inquisition, converting Muslims and Jews to Christianity by torture and murder, Salem Witch Trails, and so on. Apparently those atrocities done in the name of YOUR religion are expectable. Given that logic then Eric Rudolph should be commended for his actions, not convicted of them.

As for being “Pro-Death” isn’t that the deal with Christianity? Your ultimate reward is your own death to be with God.
A God that condones the justification of taking an innocent life to make that person a believer, is a God that is in fact condoning murder. And that is no more logical than throwing a person off a building to see if it is the fall or the abrupt stop at the bottom that kills them.

Then again I value freedom of choice so oh well.

Your post is full of ignorance. it is a simple fact that countries where the christian faith are present, and allowed to free expresion, are the freest in the world, including the USA.

And you are a hitler that would kill anyone you deemed unworthy of life. Sorry dude that one has been tryed and was a miserable failure.

The death nail of any culture who tolerates sexual perversion is found thru out history.

You are so open minded it seems all of your brains have fallen out.

You seem to have a problem with “coersive” laws that would force people to do things against their will.
I agree. And yet I shudder to think what kind of laws I would be forced to live under if the likes of Operation Rescue or the “Rev.” Fred Phelps had thier way.

Women, ALL of them, would be forced to carry full term no matter the circumstances of their impregnation wether it be rape or incest.

Homosexuality? They’d be lucky to escape prison under your rule.

And then there is the question of the terminally ill. You would rather prolong the suffering of the weakest amoung us, even against their own wishes just to satisfy your own narrow biblical worldview.

What this comes down to is this; would you rather live more freely, with all the complexity and responsibilitys that are required of freedom, or would you recoil further and further into the darkness of a theocracy?

Me, I’ll take freedom.

nice sentiment, and plausable in lala land. But these type of laws always end in coersion.

Abortion is suposed to be about a womens right to chose. But many young women are forced into it by boy friends, husbands and family members.

This will be the same with right to die laws. The elderly will be put under presure to end it. This is especially true for baby boomers who didn’t have children to take care of them at the end of life. Kinda poetic though. Killed the kidds by abortion, now no kidds to keep the doctor from slipping a little somthin somthin in the IV bottle when you are judged unworthy of life. Reap what you sow?

I become so sad and angry, recalling my 94-year old grandfather, paralyzed on one side from a stroke and miserable beyond belief, lying in his hospital bed, sincerely wanting a peaceful end, (ie: to be EUTHANIZED), certainly NOT what he ended up getting, thanks to our “culture of life.”

Also, it is incredibly offensive and outrageous of you to compare Terri Schiavo, who was severely brain damaged, and according to the vast majority of medical expects, had no idea what was going on around her, to the elderly, many of whom are alert, spry, and happy, as well as amputees and paraplegics, who can live almost completely normal lives, living, working, loving, etc., as well as Down Syndrom children, who can do the same with supervision.

I try to live by the golden rule of “do under others.” I would certainly want the option, at the end of my life, to end it peacefully.

“…I think Katerina was trying to point out that those who have no hope of survival, or are doomed to live in the purgatory that Terri Schiavo was destined for for who knows how many years, deserve a peaceful, painless end, NOT death by dehydration.”

Terri was alive before she was brutally and cruelly starved to death. therefore, she was SURVIVING. so your comment that she ‘had no hope of survival’ is just foolish. secondly, if you consider Terri’s condition one of being ‘doomed to live in purgatory’, then i guess we could easily extend that thinking to include paraplegics, the comatose, the elderly, the infirm, Down’s syndrome children, amputees, etc…. sure, they are ‘doomed to live in purgatory’, so why don’t we euthanize them, too, caro? Hitler and others had this exact same philosophy – it’s consistent with a godless worldview.

you speak of ‘deserving’ a ‘peaceful’ end. the idea that certain human beings can determine the time, place, and circumstances of another human being’s departure from this world is arrogant beyond words, and truly inhumane.

in your world, branding a calf would be illegal. but euthanizing people who you have determined to be less than human is perfectly o.k.

thank God we don’t live in your kind of world. hopefully, we never will.

For future reference…Biblically, not ‘Biblecally’; misinformed, not ‘miss informed’; Bear/bears, not ‘bare/bares’; separated, not ‘seperated’; their, not ‘thier’; supplants, not ‘suplants’; religious, not ‘realigious’; inaccurate, not ‘inacurate’; likeness, not ‘likness’; ancestor, not ‘ancester’; infallible, not ‘infalible’; including, not ‘ includding’; answer, not ‘answere’; determine, not ‘determin’. Most word processing systems have a built-in spell check. It’s not infallible, ( miss is a real word, and so is informed, so it wouldn’t catch ‘misinformed’, and it would not catch the bear/bare difference, either), but can be a great aid to clearer communication. I doubt whether anyone who read your posts has had much difficulty figuring out what you meant, but many words are only one letter apart in spelling but worlds apart in meaning. (twins, twigs, twits, etc….)

Carry on!

a. mcnutt